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2011-12 Boston College Basketball: N.C. State Game Thread (8:00 PM, ACC Network)

N.C. State Wolfpack at Boston College Eagles, Feb 1, 2012 8:00 PM EST


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N.C. State Wolfpack (15-7, 4-3 ACC) vs. Boston College Eagles (7-14, 2-5 ACC)

Time: 8:00 PM Eastern
Date:
Wednesday, February 1, 2012
Place:
Chestnut Hill, Ma.
Arena: Conte Forum
Capacity: 8,606

TV: ACC Network (TV38 in Boston)
TV Announcers: Tom Werme, Dan Bonner
Online: ESPN3.com (subject to blackout)
Radio: WRKO (680 AM)
Radio Announcers: Jon Meterparel, Malcolm Huckaby
Internet Audio:
BCEagles.com

Line: Boston College +10

Last Time Out: Boston College fell to Miami 76-54, the Eagles fourth straight loss.

Series: Boston College and N.C. State have met 12 times. Boston College leads the all-time series 8-4.
Last Meeting:
N.C. State 76, Boston College 62 (January 19, 2012)
Last Meeting at Conte Forum:
Boston College 75, N.C. State 66 (January 11, 2011)

Last Five Meetings:

L - N.C. State 76, Boston College 62 (January 19, 2012)
W - Boston College 75, N.C. State 66 (January 11, 2011)
L - N.C. State 66, Boston College 54 (March 7, 2010)
L - N.C. State 74, Boston College 69 (March 4, 2009)
W - Boston College 79, N.C. State 68 (January 24, 2009)

Trends: BC has lost four straight and seven of its last nine games. The Eagles won their last home game against N.C. State, but have lost three of their last four in the series. N.C. State is +5.9 in rebounding margin while BC is -5.9. The Eagles are averaging 60.5 points per game and allowing 68.8 a game.

N.C. State's 2010-2011 Record: 15-16 (5-11 ACC), home for the holidays

N.C. State's Probable Starters:

G - Lorenzo Brown (So.) - 6-5, 189 lbs., Roswell, Ga. - 12.0 PPG, 6.7 APG, 4.3 RPG
G - C.J. Williams (Sr.) - 6-5, 224 lbs., Fayetteville, N.C. - 11.9 PPG, 2.0 APG, 3.8 RPG
F - Scott Wood (Jr.) - 6-6, 177 lbs., Marion, In. - 13.0 PPG, 1.6 APG, 2.0 RPG
F - Richard Howell (Jr.) - 6-8, 250 lbs., Atlanta, Ga. - 11.7 PPG, 1.2 APG, 9.4 RPG
F - C.J. Leslie (So.) - 6-8, 209 lbs., Holly Springs, N.C. - 12.8 PPG, 1.3 APG, 6.3 RPG

Boston College's Projected Starters:

G - Jordan Daniels (Fr.) - 5-8, 153 lbs., Fontana, Ca. - 5.9 PPG, 2.3 APG, 1.4 RPG
G - Matt Humphrey (Jr.) - 6-5, 192 lbs., Chicago, Il. - 9.6 PPG, 1.3 APG, 3.5 RPG
G - Lonnie Jackson (Fr.) - 6-3, 170 lbs., Valencia, Ca. - 7.5 PPG, 1.7 APG, 2.6 RPG
F - Ryan Anderson (Fr.) - 6-8, 217 lbs., Lakewood, Ca. - 9.7 PPG, 1.0 APG, 6.6 RPG
C - Dennis Clifford (Fr.) - 7-0, 241 lbs., Bridgewater, Ma. - 9.8 PPG, 1.0 APG, 5.2 RPG

Leave your pre-, in- and post-game comments below.

Go Eagles!

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Won't be able to watch but looking for 2 things...

1) Toughness inside – NC State completely manhandled us in the paint last time these 2 teams played, in particular Leslie. Really want the guys to battle inside and limit 2nd shot opportunities.

2) Ball Security – Have we had a game this season with less than 10 TOs… Maybe. But it seems like every game we turn it over 17-18 times. Single-digit TOs. It can happen.

by hoyaeagle on Feb 1, 2012 7:03 PM EST reply actions  

Ello. Not expecting a real big turnout tonight…

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 7:17 PM EST reply actions  

You there?

by Brian Favat on Feb 1, 2012 7:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I am.

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Here we gooooo

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 8:02 PM EST reply actions  

Here we gooooo

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 8:03 PM EST reply actions  

Daniels, Jackson, Humphrey, Anderson, Clifford startinbg

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 8:04 PM EST reply actions  

Is Heckmann even on the bench? Did he suit up?

by Brian Favat on Feb 1, 2012 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s literally in a suit.

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 8:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Humphr3y

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 8:08 PM EST reply actions  

Wolfpack is getting out in transition early. Need to not let them do that /analysis

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 8:11 PM EST reply actions  

Daniels

Liking his play until that last pass…

by Brablc on Feb 1, 2012 8:16 PM EST reply actions  

Me too. Nice offense to get him that shot that rimmed out. Then he threw it away.

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 8:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Gotta cover that kid...

He’s killing us from 3 right now

by Brablc on Feb 1, 2012 8:20 PM EST reply actions  

He’s a 43% three point shooter. Yeah, we need to cover him.

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 8:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Played defense for a solid 32 seconds there…

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 8:22 PM EST reply actions  

Good pass by Caudill

Humpfrey needs to convert that.

by Brablc on Feb 1, 2012 8:22 PM EST reply actions  

He's been showing some good touch: both shot and pass

But he still needs to work on footwork on defense.

Definitely encouraged he can contribute more than what I saw in the first half of the season

by Brablc on Feb 1, 2012 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Caudill lefty hook?

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 8:22 PM EST reply actions  

GAB3

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 8:24 PM EST reply actions  

Curious where he fits in the guard lineup next year

He’s improved a lot and is a good stabilizing force

by Brablc on Feb 1, 2012 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice post game by Anderson on that possession.

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 8:27 PM EST reply actions  

Agree

Need to work it down low more. More successful when we work it in-out.

by Brablc on Feb 1, 2012 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Not sure why they have a shooter open on the perimeter on every possession. They are going to start hitting those wide open shots sooner or later

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 8:30 PM EST reply actions  

Sparse as usual.

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 8:31 PM EST up reply actions  

~8 students in the Student Section again?

by Brian Favat on Feb 1, 2012 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Negative 8? Not that low.

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I meant approximately 8. Ha.

by Brian Favat on Feb 1, 2012 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha, I know. Yeah basically though. One kid is doing his homework. Probably tried to find the quietest place on campus…

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 8:59 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

That’s a bad call.

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 8:31 PM EST reply actions  

Yep

Problem was that Brown for NC State was terribly off balance and awkward on the put-back. Official not in great position.

by Brablc on Feb 1, 2012 8:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, he had no angle. Bailed him out.

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Man, we have to work SO hard on offense for 30 seconds just to throw the ball into the stands.

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 8:33 PM EST reply actions  

Nice call by TV color guy

Stated that BC doesn’t have a go-to 1 on 1 player. Finally a color guy that isn’t terrible.

This is one of the things that we are definitely missing.

by Brablc on Feb 1, 2012 8:35 PM EST reply actions  

For sure.

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 8:35 PM EST up reply actions  

If only Reggie came back

Wonder how many wins we would have? Thinking around 13 or 14.

by Brablc on Feb 1, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Think it’s only a marginal improvement. Guys would have double and triple teamed Reggie. He would have definitely brought more leadership and control to the offense, but I don’t think BC woulda been all that much better honestly.

by Brian Favat on Feb 1, 2012 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmm

Well I think that it would enable our guys to be more stand still shooters. Which would have helped.

Also, probably would have seen a shorter lineup earlier in the season.

As it stands, this season was probably better in terms of development for the freshmen.

by Brablc on Feb 1, 2012 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed it was probably for the best that RJ went to the NBA. He got paid, and Donahue gets a clean slate to shape this program and give the freshmen more PT.

I think having Jackson would have enabled our guys to be more stand-still shooters, but this team just isn’t there yet in terms of being knock-down shooters. Donahue has relied on the 3 ball less this year in part because I don’t think these guys are there yet.

Also, I’m not sure Humphrey taking even more attempts from the floor would be a good thing.

by Brian Favat on Feb 1, 2012 8:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Checking in

Closer than I thought It would be

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by polarbearbrother on Feb 1, 2012 8:36 PM EST reply actions  

Playing OK

They are playing pretty well on D. Also using the whole shot clock on offense and thus limiting overall possessions.

Pretty on par with the Virginia & Miami games. Hopefully they can keep this close past the 7 minute mark today.

by Brablc on Feb 1, 2012 8:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Of course.

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 8:40 PM EST up reply actions  

BIG RED DUNK

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 8:40 PM EST reply actions  

Good pass by Daniels

He’s playing well other than that terrible TO a few minutes ago.

I don’t count the last TO. Clifford prob should have caught that one.

by Brablc on Feb 1, 2012 8:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Fundamentals!

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 8:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m impressed that our guys are learning how to hang physically.

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by polarbearbrother on Feb 1, 2012 8:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Uh…Humphrey.

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 8:43 PM EST reply actions  

Gabe with the nice and-1

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 8:43 PM EST reply actions  

Terrific Move

He’s turning into a pretty decent player. Needs to hit that free throw though.

by Brablc on Feb 1, 2012 8:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Down just 2 at the half. Not bad.

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 8:47 PM EST reply actions  

Wow.

That’s a great way to start the half.

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by polarbearbrother on Feb 1, 2012 9:03 PM EST reply actions  

I love the four point play.

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 9:04 PM EST reply actions  

We need BMD T shirts

I need to retire on the royalties..

by BCEagle74 on Feb 1, 2012 9:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I turned away, I didn’t see it.

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 9:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Holy…

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 9:06 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah…

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by polarbearbrother on Feb 1, 2012 9:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Bad Humphrey is out.

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by polarbearbrother on Feb 1, 2012 9:09 PM EST reply actions  

All tied up at 34.

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 9:09 PM EST reply actions  

We need to build up a lead here. I’m worried about Murphy’s Law Time i.e. the last five minutes of the game.

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by polarbearbrother on Feb 1, 2012 9:12 PM EST reply actions  

John Cahill just fouled Gabe Moton.

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 9:12 PM EST reply actions  

Happened literally directly in front of me.

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 9:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Great steal and outlet by Jackson. Humphrey with the finish.

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 9:16 PM EST reply actions  

ooof, Lonnie got fouled hard.

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 9:17 PM EST reply actions  

I’m on the other end, couldn’t see it well.

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 9:22 PM EST up reply actions  

This feels like the time when we start to get awful at basketball.

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 9:21 PM EST reply actions  

Grown man move right there.

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 9:24 PM EST reply actions  

Anything you guys want me to ask Donahue in post game?

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 9:27 PM EST reply actions  

1) Is he seeing the progress he’d like to see?
2) What did he do to help condition the players mentally for a full forty minutes?

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by polarbearbrother on Feb 1, 2012 9:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m not ready to assume that we’re going to play a full forty minutes tonight.

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

2a) What is he doing then to get us there?

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by polarbearbrother on Feb 1, 2012 9:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed.

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 9:32 PM EST up reply actions  

My questions

1. What is the biggest thing you are looking to work on as a team this last third of the season?

2. What are the biggest things you are working on it practice? How well are the players taking this into the game?

3. What do you think of the play of Daniels? Where do you think he’s progressed the most and what’s his biggest area for improvement?

by Brablc on Feb 1, 2012 9:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Definitely going to ask Donahue why we wait 30 seconds to run any offense on every damn possession.

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 9:34 PM EST reply actions  

To limit possessions

This was our strategy against NC last year.

by Brablc on Feb 1, 2012 9:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Well it makes us rush for a bad shot every time down the floor.

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 9:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

Also, has limited fast break points for NC State.

I think they are just trying to be safe with the ball

by Brablc on Feb 1, 2012 9:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Perhaps…but I don’t like it without a guy that can consistently create his own shot. Also, it hurts my eyes.

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 9:39 PM EST up reply actions  

This strategy typically works against opponents the second time around. See also: UNC game 1 and 2 last year.

by Brian Favat on Feb 1, 2012 11:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Why is the Big Maroon Dog Not Down in the Blocks?

WTF?

Put him down low in the last free throw slot with his back to the hole and run the offene through Clifford!!!

Run you SOB;s!

by BCEagle74 on Feb 1, 2012 9:38 PM EST reply actions  

Get the Ball to Clifford

If Jackson handed it off the BMD had a layup!

I need to have a fucking defibrillator installed and hooked up to 40,000 fucking watts.

BC Sports is killing me.

by BCEagle74 on Feb 1, 2012 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I know. This offense is painful to watch.

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Stumblin’ and bumblin’

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice tip by Cahill

Need a stop there. Now let’s score!

by Brablc on Feb 1, 2012 9:42 PM EST reply actions  

KNOCK THE GUYS HEAD CLEAN OFF!

Foul and make sure the shot is stopped!

by BCEagle74 on Feb 1, 2012 9:44 PM EST reply actions  

Donahue slowing down the game

has kept us in it. Now we need to finish

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by polarbearbrother on Feb 1, 2012 9:44 PM EST reply actions  

Oddly enough. But it feels awful.

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 9:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Ugh, needed that three to fall.

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 9:48 PM EST reply actions  

That’s our last timeout..

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 9:50 PM EST reply actions  

Welp, this one is over.

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 9:52 PM EST reply actions  

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaa......

Where did that come from Humphrey?!

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by polarbearbrother on Feb 1, 2012 9:53 PM EST reply actions  

Well, here we go.

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 9:54 PM EST reply actions  

Yup, BC loses 56-51.

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 9:55 PM EST reply actions  

Disgustaid

What the hell is going on up there!!!!!

by BCEagle74 on Feb 1, 2012 9:56 PM EST reply actions  

Lots of sadness

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 9:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Not much basketball

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Feb 1, 2012 9:56 PM EST up reply actions  

While I'm sick of moral victories...

…this was probably one of their more complete games this year.

Clifford and Anderson were beasts.
Daniels played well.
Humpfrey was a little more Hyde than Jeckyll.
Moton had a solid game.
Jackson was stifled by some tight defense. Needs to work on dribble drive game this offseason.

by Brablc on Feb 1, 2012 9:58 PM EST reply actions  

And some really good effort on D for most of the game.

NC State only had 2 offensive rebounds in the 2nd half (according to the announcers). Have to like the improvement.

by Brablc on Feb 1, 2012 9:59 PM EST up reply actions  

first game I've seen in person this year

obviously the first thing you notice is how much more athletic state looks then our guys, which never allows us to work the ball inside like I know we’d like to in order open up those threes when their D collapses down low.

Who here has seen Semi-pro… you know that one play that they make them run until they all throw up? Thats our offense… the entire thing is run about ten feet out from the perimeter where guys fight to get up in a place where they cannot attack and just relay the ball around until the shot clock starts winding down and we need to dry desperately to get a last second shot off. That was literally the whole game.

But I do understand the reason the don wants to play slow: we’re outmatched in all these games athletically and have to try to find other ways to beat teams

Even though we didn’t collapse at the end of this one you could see that our guys were huffing and puffing and way more worn out than state’s guys

by bloomsday16 on Feb 1, 2012 11:23 PM EST reply actions  

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