Who's The Next BCS AQ Program To Make A BCS Bowl Game?
by Brian Favat on Jan 5, 2012 9:40 AM EST
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PrintYesterday, ESPN's Andrea Adelson asked Clemson coach Dabo Swinney what making the program's first BCS appearance means for the program.
"Well, just kind of gives you relevance as a program, just kind of solidifies that, hey, you're doing the right things," Swinney said. "You don't just luck up and get to a BCS bowl. It's hard to win a game. That's what a lot of people don't realize. It is really difficult to win a football game."
So, yeah, about that BCS bowl appearance ...
Despite the end result, hats off to the Clemson program on winning the ACC for the first time in 20 years and making the program's first ever BCS bowl appearance. At least Clemson can now say they've played in a BCS bowl game. That's certainly more than BC can say.
Over the past few years, Eagles fans have watched as peer programs have taken the next step and advanced to a BCS bowl game, an achievement that has alluded the program since the BCS bowl system's creation in 1998. Sure, the Eagles have major bowl games under their belt, but you can only trade on a 1940 Sugar Bowl victory over Tennessee for so long.
Perhaps things might have been different if the program had stayed in the Big East, who in recent years have marched out a string of uninspiring, non-West Virginia BCS bowl representatives in Cincinnati x2 and Connecticut. But to quote Coach Spaz, "it is what it is." BC is in a much better place both athletically and academically in the ACC, the one-off BCS bowl beatdown be damned.
Clemson's first appearance in a BCS bowl game ups the total number of BCS AQ conference programs (and Notre Dame) that have made participated in BCS bowls to 44. Just 23 programs from major conferences have yet to tick the box next to BCS bowl game appearance on their resume. Those teams:
-- ACC (5) - Boston College, Duke, N.C. State, North Carolina, Virginia
-- Big 12 (4) - Baylor, Iowa State, Missouri, Texas Tech
-- Big East (2) - Rutgers, South Florida
-- Big Ten (4) - Indiana, Michigan State, Minnesota, Northwestern
-- SEC (5) - Kentucky, Mississippi, Mississippi State, South Carolina, Vanderbilt
-- Pac-12 (3) - California, Arizona, Arizona State
The question of the day is, who is the next BCS AQ program to make the program's first BCS bowl game appearance? Programs like Rutgers (2006), Boston College (2007), Missouri (2007), Texas Tech (2008) and Michigan State (2010, 2011) have certainly come close in recent years, but ultimately fell short. There are also a lot of historically terrible football programs on that list that may very well never make a BCS bowl game. Duke, Vanderbilt and Indiana say hello.
So who's next off the above list, and how many more programs come off this list before BC finally (ever?) makes a BCS bowl game appearance? Ready, go.
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My $ is on Rutgers or USF, not because they’re any good, but because it’s so easy to get a BCS bid out of the Big East (see 2010-2011 UConn football).
Unfortunately, I don't think its the Eagles
With the recruiting in the ACC so strong at Clemson, Florida State, Miami and Virginia Tech (all top 25 this year), hard for me to think it’s going to be BC.
Have to agree with Footb, that the remaining Big East schools on that list (South Florida or Rutgers) make the most sense.
Although they may be strong programs right now, will still be tough for South Carolina and Michigan State to get over the hump and get in. Even in a year where they were both in the top 10, they were bypassed by conference rivals, with more historic pedigree.
Don’t see any others breaking through anytime soon.
ODDS
— ACC (5) – Boston College 180-1 , Duke 150-1 , N.C. State 30-1,
North Carolina 25-1 (New Coach can recruit and COACH!!),
Virginia 12-1 (London’s recruiting!!! Check the 3 recruiting sites and this next class!)
— Big 12 (4) – Baylor 150-1 (no RG3), Iowa State (150-1), Missouri SEC Doomed 100-1, Texas Tech (No Leach 75-1)
— Big East (2) – Rutgers 5-1, South Florida 5-1 – No Pitt/No Cuse/No Hillbillies so now NO EXCUSES for Schiano!
— Big Ten (4) – Indiana 5,000-1, Michigan State 5-1, Minnesota 5,000-1, Northwestern 20-1
— SEC (5) – Kentucky 750-1, Mississippi 50-1, Mississippi State 40-1,
South Carolina 10-1,
Vanderbilt 50-1 (Even Vanderbilt is now stepping up recruiting and trying to be TCU, Baylor, Stanford and Northwestern — and like Virginia! — check out this Commodore class.
The high end academic schools have realized that College Football is a BIG BILLIONS of $$$$ business and have redically changed their recruiting paradigms and stepped up and giving borderline kids a chance to succeed.
Looking at the BC commits on all 3 sites…and the rankings… Look at the last 3 years!!
We are getting low end Colonial Conference level talent.
My alma mater! In Boston!! WTF???
The BC Senior Admnistration, Board of Trustees, the loser Jesuit Whisperers and Father Leahy are now National embarrassments.
BC is now a 4 year running little league football program operation and the 2012 Football Season IMHO will expose all sins.
You can’t compete with low end talent, especially at the speed and skill positions and combine that with incompetent coaching, staff turmoil and expect to go to BCS Bowls?
The WORST is yet to come.
— Pac-12 (3) – California, Arizona, Arizona State
MSU or USC
I think Michigan State is the most likely to be the next to go. They were one stupid penalty away from likely going this year. South Carolina is also a strong possibility.
I’d rather it be another ACC school, but I’m not convinced it’ll happen. Maybe UNC will go soon. Rutgers had some guy named Ray Rice when they nearly took the Big East bid; if they can snag another like him, then maybe they’ll go but otherwise I don’t see it.
Since I hope the BCS is gone soon, BC never going to a BCS bowl wouldn’t be the worst thing if there’s no BCS after 2013-14. I don’t think it’ll be gone that soon, but one can hope.
Regardless of that, I’d like to see all ACC teams doing better. It was an ugly bowl season for the conference … yikes.
Assumption is the mother of all @#%-ups.
Recommended reading: Death to the BCS
Since I hope the BCS is gone soon, BC never going to a BCS bowl wouldn’t be the worst thing if there’s no BCS after 2013-14. I don’t think it’ll be gone that soon, but one can hope.
Agreed, but replace “BCS bowl berth” with “playoff berth” and discussion holds.
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you are missing the point: Celebrate this historic BEAT down of over-hyped clowns
At least Clemson can now say they’ve played in a BCS bowl game.
At least they can say they went? that is pure loser talk.
..
Here is what Klempsum showed us
- A team that was overconfident and unprepared to play
- A team with absolutely no pride — how do you let WVU get to 70??
- A team that quit in the second quarter — “there is
Quitin this team” - a team that lacked the character to rebound from a fluke bad play (and what a play that was!)
- A team that was physically dominated in offenseive and defensive line play
- A team that completely lacked any physical or mental toughness
- An historic embarrassment to the ACC
- Gave BE a huge argument that the BE is better than the ACC
- Clemson’s blow out loss was to a not great team that lost badly to Syracuse this year and a team that barely beat Maryland.
- Clemson did not send fans because they thought they were better than the BE. Arrogant fans, arrogant team
This is not about BC at all. This is about enjoying the hell out of this. Seeing these over-confident, over-hyped, not-tough ’style boys" get their butts beaten at every turn was awesome entertainment!
Giggle-points
- Tajh Boyd can’t read pass coverage
- a three-man WVU DL consistently beat a 5-man Clemson line
- Clemson’s DL was a pourous as could be
- Clemson lacked ’team speed" and could not keep up with a quicker, faster team
- Clemson was out of shape and winded in its first BCS bowl — amazing.
it is really too bad that WVU turned to the second string in the third period. As Gruden said, “WVU could score 90 here.”
Plus this is, in a way, good for BC, if we must go with that angle. Clemson recruiting just took a M-A-J-O-R hit. That is a good thing and, in addition, Clemson has lost that mental edge of confidence for years now, another good thing
Clemson recruiting just took a M-A-J-O-R hit?
O RLY? Did anyone watch the game? Show up?
The Orange Bowl has become a joke. The Orange Bowl is easily the worst BCS bowl game, which is sad considering the bowl used have a major influence over the National Championship Game pre-BCS.
Great read here: http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2012/1/4/2680127/orange-bowl-2012-bcs-history
This bowl loss isn’t nearly as bad for Clemson as you make it out to be. Only in your waterwater Clemson schadenfreude warped mind is winning the ACC and playing in the Orange Bowl (but getting pasted) bad for the program.
Editor, BC Interruption
dumb, i must say
This bowl loss isn’t nearly as bad for Clemson as you make it out to be.
ha ha.
it is as BAD and HORRIBLE AS IT COULD POSSIBLY BE — and i love it!
Yeah, you’re right. Pointing recruits to the ACC Champions banner at Memorial Stadium is recruiting suicide.
Jesus, I don’t even hate UConn this much.
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the Gamecock’s blog is just loving this too – and crowing about how Clemson has just lost big time in the recruiting wars. The recruits do not want to be associated with this team. No one cares about a stupid banner when it was followed by an epic beat down. EPIC
and i am not expressing hate at all. As Spaz would say “it is what it is” — a steaming pile __________.
“Clemson has just lost big time in the recruiting wars.”
Again, doesn’t matter for BC.
No HS recruit is saying to themselves today, “Wow. I’m really having second thoughts about going to Clemson now that they got pasted in the Orange Bowl. I better go take a second look at that school in Boston instead …”
Clemson may lose some recruiting battles to Florida State, South Carolina and Georgia with the Orange Bowl beat down, but won’t lose out to BC. CU will still bring in much better talent than BC and the rest of the non-FSU Atlantic Division teams.
There’s no net positive impact to BC or any other non-FSU teams in the Atlantic Division with this loss. None.
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true but not true
Clemson recruits are not snubbing Clemson for BC – very true.
But they are snubbing Clemson (or will be) and that is good for BC — we are not going to be competing against an SEC level recruiting machine in Clemson for the next few years.
That is a positive impact for BC. YES IT IS
Plus, the second positive for BC impact is that Clemson will not be a confident team for the next few years. This loss will eat at them and causes them to get worse. For one, a new Dc will come in and start fresh. That is a good upheaval for BC.
This is not the kind of loss, a team can just walk away from.
THIS WAS THE WORST BOWL PERFOMANCE EVER, and it has a name K-L-E-M-P-S-U-N
Again, no
This assumes that 100 percent of the talent lost by Clemson this year — if there even is any — goes outside the ACC. You have to think that should CU lose any recruits due to a bowl loss, that some will stay within the conference (FSU, Virginia Tech, North Carolina).
Editor, BC Interruption
look at effect on CU, not the effect on ACC
if CU loses prized recruits it weakens CU.
why is that so hard to grasp?
Weakens Clemson but strengthens another ACC club = nets out for BC.
why is that so hard to grasp?
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To your second point, I will reluctantly agree with you. BC hasn’t been a confident program in years.
Bowl record last three times out = 0-3.
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A bowl loss in January is going to impact them next September, October, November, etc… Don’t think so.
Georgia Tech hasn’t won a bowl game since the ACC expanded to 12 teams. All those bowl losses are really taking a toll on the Jackets football program …
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Georgia Tech has the third or fourth highest win total in conference since expansion. The Jackets are also 0-7 over that same time span in bowl games.
The impact on bowl wins / losses the following fall is negligible.
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you know .. . .
if Clemson played with any character, and lost, I would agree with you.
But Clemson was exposed to the world as a team without substance, a team without character.
Clemson is a disgrace. It would have been better to have never played the game.
It must be killing you that you can’t comment at Shakin’ the Southland.
Be honest. How many times have you read through their game thread to take in all the disappointment?
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Nice try Debryguy. I am free to join that site if i want to and comment. You must be confusing me with someone else.
But, yes, I did read many of the comments on that site, and it is hysterical.!! Self-flaggellation at its most humous extreme. TigerNation is imploding, big time.
As for me, it is all just simple schadenfreude
Clemson fan that totally agrees with your post...except the last paragraph
Recruiting will be fine, if not excellent (top fifteen nationally). Our problem is not confidence, it’s over-confidence, softness, and a lack of heart. Agree with your post completely otherwise.
we all saw that game and came away thinking: Clemson’s defense sucks, BC had at least 3long scoring drives in that game (one called back).. That fatal Clemson flaw was proved in abundance last night
the “big time” Clemson O was also absent last night – lot of 3-and-outs
We also came away thinking, "Man, Clemson’s offense sucks without Tajh Boyd. So glad Jags didn’t close on him. Wait, I thought Jags mailed in recruiting for two years. You mean to tell me BC targeted bringing in Tajh Boyd?
Editor, BC Interruption
I just want to poke fun at your blind hatred of all things Clemson.
Christmas came late for waterwater.
Editor, BC Interruption
Not hate at all — although you wish to hide behind that label
Clemson has zero respect for BC. I will not be showing them any respect either. Nor do they deserve any.
but if you want to go grovel to them or pretend last night was anything but a competel disaster, go ahead
Potato, potato
How is this groveling? I flat out do not like Clemson. Jeff will back me up on this The fan base is far too self-entitled and arrogant, but Danny Ford isn’t walking through that door.
But waterwater’s hatred for the program and the school is on another planet, and this is what I’m bringing up here.
The least you can do is own up to the fact that you hate (HATE! HATE!!) Clemson. Go on. I’ll wait …
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I don’t get the Clemson hate at all.
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Aside from the actual result on the field, I’m not sure who the winners and losers will be after last night. Certainly you can’t make the argument that it helped Clemson. It probably doesn’t help BC in any material way. South Carolina might be in the best position. Anyway you slice it though, it’s probably the biggest black eye the ACC has taken post-expansion. What does Clemson do about it now though? What does Swofford do?
I have no idea how to make ACC football better with the current crop of schools.
by chicagofire1871 on Jan 5, 2012 11:50 AM EST reply actions
major upheaval at Clemson will be good for BC
- Clemson will fire the DC
- Clemson will fire the line coaches
- Clemson will fire the strength and conditioning coaches
- Create major insecurity for DABO
- Clemson confidence erodes badly
- Clemson recruit levels fall
- Clemson players lose confidence in themselves and the coahes
- Clemson will be a worse team next year
- BC, and other in ACC Atlantic, gain from a weakened KLEMPSUN
AND THAT IS A GOOD THING FOR BC
I'd still take ...
- A Sammy Watkins at 50 percent confidence over any current Boston College WR or recruit coming in.
- A Tajh Boyd at 25 percent confidence over any BC QB on the roster
- A Chad Morris at 10 percent confidence over any current member of the Boston College coaching staff. I might even throw in cash.
Dabo? Clemson can keep him.
Editor, BC Interruption
This are 2 Keeper POY's.
I’d still take …
•A Sammy Watkins at 50 percent confidence over any current Boston College WR or recruit coming in.
•A Tajh Boyd at 25 percent confidence over any BC QB on the roster
•A Chad Morris at 10 percent confidence over any current member of the Boston College coaching staff. I might even throw in cash.
Dabo? Clemson can keep him.
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Again, doesn’t matter for BC.
No HS recruit is saying to themselves today, "Wow. I’m really having second thoughts about going to Clemson now that they got pasted in the Orange Bowl. I better go take a second look at that school in Boston instead …"
Clemson may lose some recruiting battles to Florida State, South Carolina and Georgia with the Orange Bowl beat down, but won’t lose out to BC. CU will still bring in much better talent than BC and the rest of the non-FSU Atlantic Division teams.
There’s no net positive impact to BC or any other non-FSU teams in the Atlantic Division with this loss. None.
I just told Harvard I wasn’t coming as a full scholarship Road Scholar because I can be a Road Scholar at Westchester Community College too!
36-14.
you and BFav miss the point
No CU recruit is coming to BC. Agreed
Due to this nationally prime-time televised humiliation, some CU recruits will go to FSU, GT, VT instead. Agreed
CU will still recruit better than BC. Agreed (duh!)
Here is the point: This humiliating loss will weaken CU’s recruiting efforts and weaken CU in the short term. That is a plus for BC. A second point is that this loss will destroy and weaken CU’s resolve and confidence. Also a plus for BC.
You’re argument is flawed in many ways but even if all these points are true…
How are some recruits leaving Clemson for Virginia Tech, Georgia Tech, VT, etc., good for BC? We play all those teams…
Only the few (if any) recruits that will bolt from Clemson to a non-ACC team because of this Orange Bowl loss benefit BC in anyway…and hardly any benefit if that.
Keep grasping water.
ah hoya . . .
Hoya, your comments always come with a little dig — signaling your insecurity.
But it seems, Hoya, that you might be less than clear in your thinking here.
My point is that CU will weaken. Not that the ACC as a whole will weaken. Only that CU will weaken.
If 10 recruits who would have gone to CU, instead go to VT, GT, and UVA, that weakens CU. Agreed?
If all CU-refusniks go to a different ACC school, it is a net no change for the ACC, which is your off-the-mark point. Agreed?
Got it ??
And, one more thing: Hoya before you say my argument is flawed, you should try to understand the argument first, Agreed?
10. Clemson plays with a chip on its shoulder all year b/c of the Orange and plays even better than it did during its ACC Championship season.
See I can spin this January result on next year’s season too.
And for my next rationalization, ladies and gentlemen, I’m hear to tell you that Boston College missing a bowl game this year was a net positive …
- Double the BCS bowl payout for the conference with no bowl expenses incurred
- No extra month of practice so that the oft-injured Eagles have extra time to heal up
- No embarrassing bowl loss in front of a nationally televised audience
- Coaches Spaz and Flip can put in some much needed work on their golf games
- Nate Freese can put in extra time practicing kicking FGs in non-game situations
- Luke Kuechly really wants that first career bowl W so he’ll decide to forgo the NFL Draft and return for his senior season, tackling everything and anything in his way to back-to-back Butkus, Lott Impact, Nagurski, Lombardi trophies and the 2012 Heisman Trophy
Phew! Thank GOD BC didn’t make a bowl game this year. Can you imagine??
Editor, BC Interruption
poor rebuttal
Brian — by straying from your strength in data-based arguments and also trying to be absurd about an unrelated point, you are emphasizing that your original arguments are empty. I know you have difficulty admitted you are wrong and this is your way of doing so. I get it.
and when you diversionary arguments are supported by a clapping seal, you know you are in trouble/
Focus. Focus, Focus.
Focus
Let’s talk about focus, where the post gave Clemson a half-hearted compliment on making the program’s first BCS bowl game but turned to asking which BCS AQ program would be the next to make their first BCS bowl appearance.
This turned into a waterwater-fueled Clemson schadenfreude thread about how Clemson football will become Duke in a few years based on a mass defection of Tiger recruits stemming from a BCS bowl beatdown.
Check your pants.
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I knew it was coming
It didn’t take long for the thread to deteriorate into a Clemson bashing session, although you had to figure that was coming in light of last night. By the way, speaking of the look on coach’s faces, what about poor, old Kevin Steele. I guess he’s being talked up for the Tennessee job if Derek Dooley gets the boot, but by the middle of the 2nd quarter he looked like Nick Holt at Washington, resigned to losing his job once the game was over.
Oh and back to the original thread, although I have to think before I pass that BC will make it to a BCS or playoff game, they will NEVER be taken as a BCS at large selection. Poor travel history, little national appeal and poor home TV ratings mean its win the ACC or make yearly plans for the Military Bowl.
You’ll know that the program is really on the rise when they get selected for the Chick-Fil-A (Peach!!!) Bowl. They were jobbed out of it in 2007, but it was all due to the lack of travel history. Bring no dollars, get no good bowl invites.
by CoachJF on Jan 5, 2012 12:57 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I did too
Only reason why I came over to see in which article eagleosprey’s excitment would end up.
It’s a shame the Clemson explosion happened on this article because the actual point of the write-up is some interesting stuff. Thanks for crunching the numbers Brian. I didn’t realize so many teams had made a BCS bowl.
By the way, it won’t be Rutgers next. I still can’t believe Schiano is living off the Ray Rice year. Because other than that he’s had a pretty terrible program despite recruiting fairly well. Did you know Rutgers has never even tied for a Big East Championship? Hell, UConn’s managed that twice.
I think two more will go before BC gets their shot (assuming Spags ever gets let go).
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Derby --Better start checking and looking at Rutgers!!
Check out how Rutgers and Schiano are doing this year recruiting and BURYING SPAZOO and BC in on of our historical geographic regions where we always had and edge and beat out Rutgers.
Boston College Football Recruiting under GDF and Spazoo has developed a new paradigm and guess what?…. a new rival………at the same time!!!
BC Football is now Holy Cross East!
Clemson may have had a horrible game, but I still see them 3 years in a row as one of the top recruiting programs in America.
Next year that blowout will motivate the Tigers. What do we have to motivate BC next year?
Take your time. I’ll be waiting!
Clemson, UVA, FSU are really stepping up in the recruiting rankings.
BC?
We are a ice hockey school only now.
Whoa
Explosion of information.
But yea…I’m a UConn fan… so… um… OK?
Wrt Rutgers. I know Rutgers is recruiting well. Have for a while, but they haven’t done anything with it. Only reason Schiano hasn’t gotten the Stache treatment is because it’s friggin’ Rutgers and before Ray Rice, they hadn’t been relevant since the first football game.
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Derbyguy, since you find my posts so entertaining, I will sit back and watch you debate the new guy, 74. Should be interesting.
hmmm, I wonder if some BC guy could really know as much about Rutgers as a bona fide Husky?
Haha
Have you been debating with 74 and are tapping me in or is it you are tapping him in to debate with me?
Regardless, I don’t see our discussion going any further. Sorry bud.
Btw, waterwater’s conversation with the ND blog was a great read.
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Rutgers and South Florida will get their shot over the next two seasons, or whenever the Big East becomes Conference USA 2.0. Especially if West Virginia gets out in time for 2012. The conference will be a total crap shoot in football without West Virginia.
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I can see USF because they have the talent and have to put it together one of these years, right?
I do believe that if WVU gets out before anyone else comes, no team from the Big East will be going to the BCS. Because I believe there is a clause in the BCS contract regarding number of teams with a minimum of 8.
I just don’t see it with Rutgers. They are losing the only real offense they had this year with Sanu going.. Maybe they could sneak in like Conn, but I don’t think it will happen.
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I do believe that if WVU gets out before anyone else comes, no team from the Big East will be going to the BCS. Because I believe there is a clause in the BCS contract regarding number of teams with a minimum of 8.
You have to think that if West Virginia gets out the Big East will be able to finagle a deal to get 1-2 of Boise State, San Diego State, Central Florida, SMU or Houston a year earlier to preserve the BCS auto-bid. Otherwise, that’ll be some real Big East schadenfreude there.
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I would hope that would be the case, but they seem to be really focused on keeping WVU for at least one year. Making me think there are complications with getting those other teams next year. I know that Boise would have to pay a huge sum, 20ish million all told I think, to join the Big East next year. I guess that sort of thing would have to be covered by WVU as a result of the “damages” caused by them leaving. But if thats the case, are the taxpayers of WV really going to accept dishing out that much cash just so they can change to a different conference a year early?
Ultimately though, this is the Big East management we’re talking about so something like losing BCS status because they don’t have enough teams unfortunately seems like a possibility for them.
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I think Oliver Luck is willing to pay any amount of money to get the hell out of Dodge in time for 2012.
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It does seem to be the case.
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Dodge Ball In Morgantown?
You think if they make Dodge Ball a NCAA Sport we can all be elated now that we have the best Coach at BC in 15 years - Opps make that 16 years since we are in 2012!! (sorry!) - in Spazoo that he can be a dual Head Coach?
I can hear it now…..
“We’ll if our academic standards were not so high and restrictive we could get those slow fat kids with big feet!”
The 2012 Spazoo Excuse Train..son to be posted…..
………………ALLLLLL BOARD!!!!
Spaz and Flip are good at dodging criticism. We could be the BC hockey of the collegiate dodgeball world.
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Here is a List of Team That Lost By Less Than 47 Points to West Virginia
Everyone West Virginia played this season including Norfolk State (they only lost by 43 points). If only Clemson had the same fight in them.
Nevermind they only lost by 37 not 47.
by Wisconsineagle on Jan 5, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
so…..is it awkward to say I still like Dabo?
The worst thing about this whole mess is that it will leave VATech ranked highest in the ACC, so I have another Spring/Summer of listening to National Championship talk and then watching some opening game, neutral field implosion.
Unrelated, can BC join the FCS for a couple of years? Go down to the minors, refine our game, get tossed around by App State a few times?
BC has the best sport graduation rate in the NCAA.
The Real Reason Clemson Played so poorly:
Hey!
At one of the toughest academic centers of advanced research and collegiate studies, if Dabo didn’t make all his kids spend long hours studying and watching videos for the Animal Husbandry for Large Critters, High Tech Tractor Maintenance in a Changing World and Advanced Deep Frying for an Obese World, then yes, our fellow ACC Tigers woulda done much better!
I am ashamed of my fellow Eagles for disparaging these scholar athletes.
This is true
Clemson major: Parks, Recreation, and Lleisure Facilities Management
If you major in parks, recreation, and leisure facilities management, you’ll learn how to help people live healthy, happy, active lives by running parks, community centers, swimming pools, and other sites. And you’ll learn to do so safely and efficiently.
Or
The Department of Food, Nutrition and Packaging Sciences (FNPS) manages two undergraduate degrees, one in Food Science and one in Packaging Science,
However
There are a zillion real deal majors like engineering, math, chemistry etc,
Despite what Dabo says, Clemson appears to e committed to academic improvement and excellence
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I am now due a PRLFM degree!!!
We played with the kids at the corner in the playground every day.
Do you know how tough I was back then?
I never let one 3rd grade girl post me up in the paint and in dodge ball, believe me, I was a freaking terror!!!
by BCEagle74 on Jan 5, 2012 9:43 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Wow
I’m staying out of this one, didn’t know there was so much vitriol against my alma-mater. Hope BC can use the $34 million that was brought in for conference from the two BCS games to improve it’s Athletic Department. Hopefully I can see the changes when I manage my trip up to Boston for the game this year.
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