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No, not moron, more on.

As I've posted before, my colleague's son goes to HS with Akeel Lynch. Last week, I passed on the story of Omar Easy to the colleague to relate to his son, and ultimately to Akeel. Today, my colleague came in and told me Akeel's reasoning and thought process with the de-commit from Boston College and verbal to Penn State.

It's an interesting look into the mind of a 17/18 year old and the effects of negative recruiting.

First, he was informed by Penn State that BC's entire coaching staff will likely be gone within one year as BC is in a death spiral (my words, not their's).

Second, he was told that he could be assured of a pro-style offense and emphasis on the running game at PSU, whereas at BC, with the impending coaching change, he would not have that assurance. The other interesting tidbit - he was advised by his HS coach that he should look at the schools as if he was not a football player and should determine what school would be his best choice academically as far as the doors / job a degree from that school might open. His answer: still BC. So that tells me, the negative recruiting, and perhaps Akeel's own belief that he will be a NFL player someday (what HS "blue-chip" doesn't think that?), overcame the fact he acknowledges BC would be the better school were he not a football player.

Finally, as many know, Akeel is from Toronto. The son of the family he is living with, a HS classmate and also a teammate on the football team, is going to Penn to play football.

So there are a variety of factors working against BC, chief among them is Penn State's negative recruiting vs. Spaz. Which is, of course, why mega-programs can just keep extending coach's contracts, even if the coach is on the hot-seat. Tennessee and Dooley just lost one of the best LB recruits in the country, probably for the same reason.

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Penn State coaches jerking kids around? Unpossible!

by DCash on Jan 30, 2012 3:17 PM PST via mobile replyactions

LMAO!

by BCEagle74 on Jan 30, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Didn’t Bill O’Brien show an interest in the Boston College HC job should it have become available? Now he’s talking smack on the BC football program?

OH NO HE DIDN’T!

by Brian Favat on Jan 30, 2012 6:18 PM EST reply actions  

So there are a variety of factors working against BC, chief among them is Penn State’s negative recruiting vs. Spaz.

Welcome to college football.

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by A.J Black on Jan 30, 2012 6:22 PM EST reply actions  

Penn State would be stupid if they didn’t do this.

by hoyaeagle on Jan 30, 2012 6:45 PM EST up reply actions  

BC's Athletic Department has been reading these Boards Since 2003

Make no mistake, many who work at Yawkey ignore the truth for job security sake and hide out knowing life is cushy on the BC lush payroll and keep talking highly of little GDF and stay on the dole!

Fact is he had to be pushed into the ACC re-approach and his only 3 moves that he gets credit for are getting rid of TOB, (but he left Jags with Spazoo!), Skinner and hiring Stevie D.

The cause of the Football death spiral since 2007 has been the incredible blunder in firing Jags after finally getting rid of lemon faced ceiling boy TOB!

BC had a super chance at so many, many great coaches in the last 3 years and GDF is a meddling stupid idiot who knows nothing about how a great Football Coach can recruit and bring BC Football to greatness year after year.

I have never seen one incompetent guy like our bumbling, mumbling Spazoo take so many blistering zings and barbs, (hundreds and hundreds from yours truly, and thousands more from the BC blogging hard core fans), and then the 2 year extension by the most arrogant, disrespectful, downright insolent stubborn AD on earth in GDF.

That 2 year extension was BC’s fatal iceberg.

BC became a laughingstock CLOWNSHOES program 3 years ago and 1-11 versus TOP 25 AP season ending ranked teams is damning!

Guess what? Stanford, ND, TCU, Baylor, Vanderbilt all graduate their players at equal or better academic schools.

Go check the ESPN TOP 30 recruiting classes in 2012.

Bring a barf bag.

by BCEagle74 on Jan 30, 2012 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Losing is Really Bad And Losing Really Badly is Really Really Bad

We are in a potential death spiral for a couple years due to recruiting unless Spaz really turns things around next season. Our AD has taken a HUGE gamble on Spaz. Few AD’s would have hung on this far under the circumstances. Spaz must have pictures or these two guys are really brothers.

by Fukowi on Jan 30, 2012 6:39 PM EST reply actions  

Good programs / head coaches are able to overcome poor single-season results in terms of Ws and Ls.

Miami was a 6-6, sub .500 ACC frittata of a program this year — one mired in a booster scandal — and Golden’s incoming recruiting class is ranked top 3 in the conference and top 15 nationally, depending on who you ask.

Ohio State … 6-7, scandal, hires Urban Meyer and is killing it on the recruiting trail.

Penn State had a good season but again, mired in scandal, fires a coaching legend and the Lions are still able to steal recruits from BC.

And if you think this is confined to name-brand programs, you’d be mistaken.

Maryland … 2-10. Worst record in the ACC. Edsall has the Terps incoming class ranked in the middle of the pack in conference.

Duke … DUKE! … was 3-9, is a perennial BCS bottom feeder, and still manages to have a better ranked recruiting class, according to Rivals, Scout and 247.

by Brian Favat on Jan 30, 2012 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Frittata

My Aunt who died at 97 made a superb frittata with asparagus and mushrooms that was to die for on hard italian fresh bread from the bakery as a spectacular sammich.

She used a huge cast iron pan and could flip that bad boy at just the right moment and used fresh farm eggs from the chicken farmer who pulled up in a 1944 Willy’s army surplus used jeep.

Boy that was a Scorsese scene especially when the fruit wagon came to the hood in the old days. There was some bargaining and dealing like you could not imagine.

I think if she missed the frittata flip, the Pope would excommunicate the whole familia.

She even bought live chickens and that bird didn’t have a chance when Grandma shook its neck!

Brian, stop being a nattering nabob of negativity, eat your Chicken McNuggets and Egg McMuffin Fritatta.

Thanks.

by BCEagle74 on Jan 30, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

BC football is officially sub-frittata.

by Brian Favat on Jan 30, 2012 9:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Very Slight Correction
We are in a deep death spiral

Have been since December 2008.

by BCEagle74 on Jan 30, 2012 6:46 PM EST reply actions  

great post

interesting insights

There is probably nothing BC could have done to retain Akeel. But let’s see this clearly too: Akeel also was gaming the system by accepting BC, in part, to draw attention to himself, ala Sam Grant, Graham Stewart, Jaxon Hood and many others. By taking the FBS/ACC offer, but not truly commiting or honoring his own words, he knew that maybe some other schools would take notice. And they did!

Also sounds like the usual Spaz problem was also in play: Bad Communication. BC was not courting this kid and staying in close contact to be in a position to refute the blarney of the coaches of other schools

(but here, I am hoping the PSU guys are right that Spaz will be gone come 2013!)

by eagleosprey on Jan 30, 2012 8:30 PM EST reply actions  

There is no deep death spiral. I predict BC does much better next year at recruiting. Next year, we will have a decent recruiting class that will be a little below middle of the pack in the ACC and we will win a respectable amount amount of games, around 7 or 8. I base the recruiting assessment on all the articles from scout and rivals. I base winning assessment on how many returners we have, on Rettig, on an improved defense.

Spaziani is a lesser version of TOB in the sense that he will never guide the program to greatness, he will probably maintain an average program with a good defense. If he surrounds himself with a skilled offensive coordinator, he could do better. If Doug Martin is a flop, both he and Spaziani will be gone next season. However, if that happens, and if we get another crappy HC….then the program will be in a death spiral. I don’t think we’re quite there yet.

Brian, in response to your last posting: BC doesn’t have the pedigree of Miami nor the coach of Ohio State. Regarding Maryland, I’ve got nothing. It makes little sense except they have a pretty good new offensive coordinator. See this article: http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/recruiting-blog/bal-recruiting-report-analysts-weigh-in-on-marylands-2012-football-recruiting-class-20120129,0,3046455.story

But Spaz will never be a high profile, charismatic coach like Urban Meyer, and BC will never be able to recruit like Miami. I doubt Spaz will completely tank and I think he will do better next year. Despite this, I hope GDF is keeping his finger on the trigger. If a great HC becomes available, I hope GDF jumps on it. As miserly as GDF is, you know he has to have been a little jumpy this past season and not too happy that Spaz made his seat warm up also. He made the decision to hold onto Spaz this year, but don’t be surprised if he cans him for practically nothing in the future.

by eaglefn on Jan 30, 2012 8:36 PM EST reply actions  

Re: Maryland, Mike Locksley is a great recruiter, especially in the Del-Mar-Va area.

But the fact remains that peer programs are eating BC’s lunch on the recruiting trail this year. Even the staunchest of pro-Spaz supporters have to acknowledge the fact that this recruiting class is really, really weak — both in terms of quantity and quality.

The whole reason Gene gave Spaz a contract extension was to combat any negative recruiting with programs saying that the coaching staff will be gone in a year or two anyway …

WR Leonte Carroo reconfirmed his commitment to Rutgers on Sunday night, saying something to the effect of "one coach is not going to stop me from going because it was a good fit then and it’s a good fit now."

We need to recruit guys that are going to buy into what the BC program is about. In order to do that though, we need a charismatic coach that can own the living room.

For a program with few natural advantages — high academic standings, no natural recruiting grounds, cold weather, competes in same division as schools like Florida State, Clemson and N.C. State, ones with many of these advantages (plus a student body 2x-2.5x larger than BC) — BC cannot afford to be at another disadvantage having a coach of Spaz’s personality on the recruiting trail. We just can’t.

You can’t afford to fall behind the 8-ball in recruiting, especially in the face of increasing competition in areas where BC traditional recruits well — Notre Dame on the rise (midwest), UMass jumping to I-A (Mass), Syracuse and Pittsburgh to the ACC (NJ and the Northeast), Rutgers continuing its success recruiting under Schiano (NJ), Penn State gaining stability under O’Brien (PA / NJ) and other peer programs like Virginia and North Carolina hiring more youthful, energetic head coaches (Mid-atlantic).

Recruiting is all about relationships. If you aren’t in constant communication with these kids, making them feel wanted and getting them to buy into Boston College, then you aren’t going to be successful on the recruiting trail. BC football is a tough sell to begin with. It does not behoove the program to have a HC that isn’t a great salesman.

by Brian Favat on Jan 30, 2012 9:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Amen

BF with a classic tack job!

We need to print this site and send it to a time capsule since all here is nothing but one word

TRUTH!

by BCEagle74 on Jan 30, 2012 9:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Sad, but agree that it is all true...

The recruiting piece is the one part that I agree Spaz will be never good at. It is the most convincing reason to fire him. 2012 is a do or die year. If past cant win and recruit he’s gone.

by eaglefn on Jan 30, 2012 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree

However, a poor recruiting class isn’t going to lead to Spaz getting fired, as this class won’t have an impact on BC’s final W-L in 2012. Unfortunately, it will probably limit BC’s next head coach early on, as I don’t think Spaz will stay on to see this class become RS sophomores or juniors.

Gene has stated in no uncertain terms that he could care less about this recruiting class, or recruiting in general, under Spaz. All of our recruiting shortcomings are either still pinned on the previous coaching staff (of which many of our current assistants and coordinators worked on, including Siravo) or rationalized as “BC never ranks well in recruiting rankings” or “Look at Virginia Tech … they don’t recruit all 4* and 5* guys.” Both poor excuses imo.

This season, Spaz will be judged solely on W-L. Not attendance, not recruiting, not alumni and fan financial support, not local/national media scrutiny. Personally, I think if BC isn’t bowling next year, he’s gone. Not bowling and no games GDF can point to and say “Well, if Freese makes that kick against Duke” … or … “If Richman doesn’t commit a false start penalty resulting in a 10 sec runoff at the end of the Northwestern game.” If the team wins 5 or fewer and leaves no doubt in the other 7, then I think this will shame Gene into making a change in 2013.

by Brian Favat on Jan 30, 2012 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

FN

We all pray, make novenas, buy the big $5.00 Mass cards and hope you and Osprey are right and I am 10,000% wrong about the upcoming season and future.

FN, how can BC recruiting not be much better in 2013?

That is like saying the next White Star liner sister ship the Olympic will not use the same route and plan as the Titantic?

By the way, BC is loaded with cash and sadly, loaded with arrogant stupidity.

by BCEagle74 on Jan 30, 2012 8:46 PM EST reply actions  

True, it would be tough to be worse. I’ll rephrase: BC will have a typically average recruiting class next year. Average in terms of what types of recruits we are typically able to get. Call it a typical TOB class with mostly 3 star but a few 4 star recruits. Maybe a little more Jersey presence next year in light of Schiano being gone. One can hope.

by eaglefn on Jan 30, 2012 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Hope springs eternal

Believe me, I hope I am wrong and BC wins 14 games next season and plays in the National Championship Game.

But I also can’t ignore the trends I see with the current football program — decreasing win totals, nationally televised BC beatdowns against the tougher teams on our schedule (VT, Clemson, FSU) increasing in frequency and severity, decreasing offensive and defensive national rankings, lower and lower ranked recruiting classes, steadily declining per-game attendance over two year cycles.

That’s the definition of a death spiral.

How does a program with an offense ranked 112th nationally go out and recruit just 6 offensive players in this year’s class? 2 lightly regarded WRs, zero QBs (Jones is conveniently listed as a QB but told the recruiting services he was recruited as a DB), zero TEs, zero RBs. Are we supposed to just hope and pray that Doug Martin will pull a Chad Morris and turn BC’s offense around overnight? Forgive me for being a little skeptical.

I don’t see the defense getting much better without Luke in the middle. Sure, we are loaded at LB but have major question marks on the DL and the DBs are still really, really young and inexperienced.

Also, the schedule is simply unforgiving. Three of six home opponents will likely be ranked in the Top 25 (Clemson, Virginia Tech, Notre Dame), in addition to road games at Florida State, at N.C. State, at Georgia Tech. Miami, at Northwestern and at Wake Forest are toss-ups at best? Gene just traded an extra home game in 2012 to give him an artificial attendance boost.

Finally, I don’t trust Spaz or any of the current assistants/coordinators’ in-game coaching. The blunders are too numerous to mention. Unless there is a significant change and Spaz stops meddling with the offense and gives up all play-calling duties to Martin/Bollman, BC will continue to drop games based on poor in-game coaching decisions.

by Brian Favat on Jan 30, 2012 9:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe he will stop messing with the offense

Maybe Spaz learned his lesson last year. If he lets Doug Martin run things we could experience some significant success. Martin is known for being able to the use the talent he’s given and adapting his offensive to fit the pieces. Rettig, Finch, Harris, Williams, Kimble, a decent O-line…

by eaglefn on Jan 30, 2012 10:12 PM EST up reply actions  

One can only hope ...

But we’ve seen the offense stagnate over three full seasons now under three different OCs. At what point do you ask yourself who’s really calling the shots on offense? And will said person swallow his pride enough to cede control of the offense to someone infinitely more qualified to run it?

by Brian Favat on Jan 30, 2012 10:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the biggest factor that will play to next season...

is how well Jim Bollman in developing the offensive line. Many of our a problems on offense have stemmed from detrimentally inconsistent line. Whether it was pass blocking or the run game, glaring issues could be traced back to poor line. Rettig had a great game against NW when his confidence still had not been sacked for the 40th time. I’m no QB coach, so I can’t speak to what exactly Rettig did not do well with this year, but his confidence (or lack thereof sometimes) showed.

I’m in camp with FN/EO right now. I am impressed by the Martin/Bollman hires and the most recent hire SC coach. We have an above par RB corps, we’ve seen flashes of Rettig’s brilliance, and WR… maybe Day will realize he worked with Chip Kelly and Urban Meyer at some point.

Boston College, Class of 2010

by polarbearbrother on Jan 30, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I was in Camp FN/EO/polarbearbrother at the start of last season, but Spaz & Flip have officially lost the benefit of the doubt for me. Others clearly disagree, and that’s fine. Like I said, hope springs eternal, and I hope to be proven wrong in the end.

For me, the trend line for this program is glaringly obvious (offense, defense, recruiting, coaching, attendance, $$), and there have been far too many missteps along the way.

All of which came to a head this year with DeFilippo’s numerous and very public media gaffes (bringing public embarrassment to the University for his public remarks overstating his role in keeping UConn out of the ACC, telling fans and alumni to pound sand, lamenting the fact that Clemson fans are in their seats by kickoff, mocking us by telling us that Spaz is the best coach in the last 15 years, asking us to implicitly “trust him” etc. etc.). Not to mention Spaz’s (alleged) treatment of Rogers (respecting his privacy) and the way he would talk about the players in post-game pressers (throwing multiple players under the bus).

That said, all of zero of this is the player’s fault. This site will continue to cover the program and show up for games because ultimately, it’s about the players on the field.

I hope that the program will excel in 2012 in spite of its numerous shortcomings, but at this point, I can’t see BC winning more than 6 games. Surely Martin/Bollman will help to improve the offense (there’s nowhere to go but up, amiright?), but as a program, BC is currently going to speed limit in a residential, school zone while other peer programs in the ACC and elsewhere are getting pulled for going 20 mph over the speed limit on the Mass Pike.

by Brian Favat on Jan 30, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

You would think he would make this recruiting priority #1, considering how often he elects to punt.

Knocking down the door / Punting from your 43 #NotoriousSPAZ

by Brian Favat on Jan 31, 2012 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Though, apparently BC IS recruiting Bosco’s long snapper, who is deciding between BC and Duke. So we aren’t entirely neglecting the punting game in this year’s class. Rest easy.

by Brian Favat on Jan 31, 2012 12:40 AM EST up reply actions  

BTW, I liked the Titanic analogy. More akin to BC’s offensive plan of attack this past year.

by eaglefn on Jan 30, 2012 8:57 PM EST reply actions  

Titanic?

More like the Costa Concordia …

GDF is the captain and Spaz is the head waiter. Wanted to bring the ship closer to home and run it into the ground.

Too soon?

by Brian Favat on Jan 30, 2012 9:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Slightly good news

Rutgers whiffed on Cristobal.
Maybe this helps us close on a recruit or two… Or they’ll all go to FIU

by DCash on Jan 31, 2012 7:02 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

If the last straw in convincing a recruit is your academics, you probably have already lost. First off, most of these athletes aren’t thinking about classrooms but rather the staff, teammate, and facilities situation. Its not to say that they are dumb but those 3 things play a huge part as far as their time is concerned. Secondly, I’m a proud Eagle but some of the comments make BC out to be Oxford. The only 2 D1 schools I can think of that are far and away better academic institutions are Stanford and Northwestern. Duke and Vanderbilt may be close but the rest is probably 50 schools that are great in different programs followed by 70 or so that are lesser. Even if it DID come down to BC and PSU, how would BC be the obvious choice? Sex scandal aside, PSU is a large University with a myriad of offerings with millions im research. To me part of BCs status is due to the fact that 20k applicants on the east coast apply for 2500 slots. I’m not knocking BC because I’d be knocking myself but lets get real. Those college “rankings” are not the bible and are manipulated anyhow. One last thing, if I were a recruit, the lack of diversity may be less than appealing as well. I can already feel the hate coming my way..,

by grebek on Jan 31, 2012 7:08 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

Grebek

All True. Hate comes from ignorant uninformed people.

17…Are you thinking about Chemistry class, or playing time, and all you mentioned and the only chemistry…… with cheerleaders?

Look at the schools above you mentioned in my post about recruiting rankings.

Been saying for years on the other sites… BC needs more athletes in the skilled positions and BC lack of recruiting speed and talent from the diversity circle, is not an small problem, but a huge glaring problem.

BC, you keep playing that weak Graduation rate card and see how much run that has in it after a tough 2012!

As far as Spazoodenfreude, a few Rutgers kids already said they are staying.

by BCEagle74 on Jan 31, 2012 7:51 AM EST reply actions  

The only realistic gets from Rutgers at this point are Giacone (Rutgers and BC) and Longa (Rutgers, BC and Maryland).

Longa visited BC last weekend and Maryland this weekend. Sounds like he’s still unsure. Both aren’t going to sign before NSD.

by Brian Favat on Jan 31, 2012 8:07 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

One Foot Down turns 3 today

It’s a shame waterwater was killed in battle. If he was still around these parts, I’m sure he’d wish them a very Happy Birthday.

by Brian Favat on Jan 31, 2012 8:18 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

imparting information

Grebek – did I launch into any kind of BC academics are the best in the FBS speech? My post was merely imparting interesting, direct-from-the-source information on Lynch’s decision. By all accounts, academics was imp to him, and on the front, he thought BC was better. However, apparently, that was overcome by other considerations, primarily the line that the coaching staff would be gone in a year and he may find himslef in a spread or option attack. Of course what’s ridiculous about that line is that regardless of coaches, BC has historically been a pro-style, run first, big o-line offense. This kind of thing in my mind goes to how shallow 17/18 yr olds think. I think they’re very easily duped by “say-anything” coaches. Which brings me to my next point.

Many want to talk about Spaz’s age, lack of charisma, etc. when discussing recruiting resutls. IMO, that’s not it. You want to point to an achilles heel in today’s world, with today’s 17/18 yr olds? It’s HONESTY. Take Lynch again (or any other RB recruit this year). Recruit wants to play right away, thinks he’s that good. If Lynch asks Spaz or Spaz’s staff that question (not saying he did, but it’s a normal question), guess what the answer is? Either, “no,” “highly unlikely,” or even, “we plan to RS you.” Most other schools (no matter what’s in front of him), “you’ll have a chance,” “it’s possible,” or even, “absolutely, that’s why we’re recruiting you.” Now you can quibble over what exactly BC might say, but the point is, Spaz is going to be a lot more honest and direct w/ recruits than most of these “high energy” salesman most here seem to covet. Now, is that good or bad? It seems most here think the ends justfy the means. I don’t. Does it hurt our recruiting? I would say yes, but to me, I’d rather have the straight shooter. And that plays into my last point on recruiting.

BC is NEVER going to get top 10, or even top 20 classes. 20-something classes are probably our best result possible and the norm is going to be 30s to 50s. The reasons for that are numerous, are FACTS, and are known and been mentioned here ad nauseum. Doesn’t matter who the coach is, they are unchangeable things. So, BC has to go get “BC guys,” who are smart, tough, highly motivated and coachable. Those guys don’t garner 4 and 5 stars, period, end. So BC’s formula for success is to get these 3-star “BC guys,” RS them, build ‘em up physically, wean them into playing time after they’ev physically and mentally matured, keep ’em for 4 yrs (or 5), and try to knock the snot out of faster, more talented teams.

It’s a formula that’s worked in the past, and it’ll work again. The fact is we have been incredibly young the last couple years, had young and poor QB play (huge!), and had key, significant injuries to the older talent we did have. That is OVER. We are not in a death spiral because a death spiral is a spiral to your death. BC football hit it’s lowpoint in 2011, we’re having trouble recruiting this year b/c of it, but frosh aren’t going to having an effect on this team in 2012 anyway.

Yup, I agree, it’s Spaz’s last chance, but I see us w/ a winning record and going to a bowl this year (admittedly, not lofty goals, but realistic). Assuming we get solid QB play this year, and hopefully strong QB play in 2013, BC is going to surprise once again, just like we always have.

by rcmbc81 on Jan 31, 2012 9:31 AM EST reply actions  

Reminds Me of ND! Pablum Puking Pathetic Pravda Pumping Pollyanna Panglossian Pansy CRAP!!!!!
BC is NEVER going to get top 10, or even top 20 classes. 20-something classes are probably our best result possible and the norm is going to be 30s to 50s. The reasons for that are numerous, are FACTS, and are known and been mentioned here ad nauseum. Doesn’t matter who the coach is, they are unchangeable things. So, BC has to go get "BC guys," who are smart, tough, highly motivated and coachable. Those guys don’t garner 4 and 5 stars, period, end. So BC’s formula for success is to get these 3-star "BC guys," RS them, build ‘em up physically, wean them into playing time after they’ev physically and mentally matured, keep ’em for 4 yrs (or 5), and try to knock the snot out of faster, more talented teams.

Stanford, TCU, Baylor, ND and Now Vanderbilt! hit the Top ESPN 30!! BC also hit this list in the past!

You are so full of idiot crap! just defeatist, loser, dunce crap!!!!!!

by BCEagle74 on Jan 31, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

can you pay attention?

Seriously 74, your posts are complete garbage – the worst part is, they intentionally are and you think that displays some kind of intellectual superiority.

Can you read? Where did I say we can’t get a top 30 recruiting class? I said 20-something is probably our best. Can you show me a top 10 or top 20 class BC has gotten since recruting rankings began? I don’t think so. I know we can get top 30, I SAID SO Clownshoe. And in your list of schools that have, are you saying TCU and Baylor are somehow like BC?? Haha, two Texas schools – just like BC in terms of recruiting possibilities.

Yup, our norm – do you know what a “norm” is 74? – is 30s to 50s. Could be a bit higher in any given year; could be a bit lower.

Forget recruiting 74, what kind of program do you REALISTICALLY think BC should be in terms of final rankings? In any 10 yr period, I think we should be top 10 1-2x, top 25 6-7x and top 40 8-9×. I’d say we might fall out of the top 40 once or twice if there are special circumstances.

by rcmbc81 on Jan 31, 2012 2:17 PM EST reply actions  

I actually agree with your expectations. Problem is BC has been trending outside the top 50 for a few years now iirc.

Special circumstances = Spaz?

by Brian Favat on Jan 31, 2012 2:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Rivals class rankings

2012: Not trending in the top 50 — Spaz
2011: outside Top 50 — Spaz
2010: 47 — Spaz
2009: outside Top 50 — Spaz
2008: 33 — Jags
2007: 46 — Jags
2006: 37 — TOB
2005: 49 — TOB
2004: 24 — TOB
2003: 24 — TOB

http://atleagle.blogspot.com/2011/09/talentrecruiting-narrative-is-pretty.html

The whole reason you give Spaz a contract extension is to help recruiting. The results just haven’t been there.

by Brian Favat on Jan 31, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

RCMBC81

Dragnet Deja Vu:

JUST THE FACTS RCMBC81 AND ALSO FOR YOUR LOSER OSPREY!

YOU GUYS ALWAYS, ALWAYS MISS!

1—We were in the 2007 National Title Game in New Orleans! Spazoo’s cushion defense was then torched in 2 consecutive weeks by FSU and MD for 7 TD’s and 700 yards and no int’s.

2—I will go back in my football book library of over 25 years and find them later. BC has had some TOP 25 classes!

3—In Football, Baylor and TCU are better than BC now, especially TCU by a counrty mile. BC is clownshoes and so are most of your posts and Ospray’s daily diarrhea on this great site.

4—TCU is BC’s academic equal, I do not know about Baylor, except its fabulous nursing school. What about ND, Stanford, Vanderbilt…. all TOP 30 classes this year, that jerks like you forget I have posted 10X in the recruiting classes high rankings?

5—I have posted my norms many times, but you were MIA, and it is to be a contender for a BCS game and ACC Title every year and once every 10 years maybe for a National Title like 2007.

6—BC should be TOP 20-25 every year. We are in Boston. We are the greatest U in the galaxy. We have 34,000 APPS! We have the weak graduation card (LOL) and 31 NCAA sports!

7—2001-2008-2010 National Champions in a major sport of ICE Hockey ring a bell.

8—I am so intellectually, historically and factual superior to you and your diseased dwarf cohort Osprey who takes shots at me eevry post -- that any person who is an historical scholar of College Football history and facts like I am, or a kindergartner will tell you, that your retorts and rebuttals are crap. Pure diarrhea crap!

9—BC should be in the TOP 25 in recruiting every year.

10-BC’s AD and Football Recruiting Staff and Coaching Staff are CLOWNSHOES!

Enjoy this Letterman TOP 10 since you will not see BC ranked there until Spazoo and/or GDF are long gone!

by BCEagle74 on Jan 31, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

On 2) see above. 2003 and 2004. Your boy TOB delivered!

by Brian Favat on Jan 31, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Reverse negative recruiting

You’re telling me this staff could double reverse negative recruit on Penn State?

Of course, it’s because of the double-duty that O’Brien is pulling that he hasn’t been able to pay much attention to helping put Penn State’s 2012 recruiting class together, and when asked about it on Tuesday, O’Brien gave an answer that probably won’t be music to the ears of Penn State fans.

“I’ll get a fax of our signees. I already have a pretty good idea of who they are going to be,” said O’Brien. “It’s really about the Patriots and making sure we’re ready for today’s practice, tomorrow’s meeting and Sunday’s game.”

http://eye-on-collegefootball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/34641181

by Brian Favat on Jan 31, 2012 3:04 PM EST reply actions  

yup

pretty much exactly what I said, a couple top 20s, 2 30s, 3 40s and a few 50+. By the way, notice TOB’s 2 20s classes were the 4th and 5th year players who produced our best records in the past 20+ years. BC wins when we’re mature and have a QB. That hasn’t been the case for a few years.

In another not-so-coincidental fact, recruiting success follows on-the-field success. Yup, we’re having our worst recruiting year in a while following our worst W-L record in a while.

The trend will be upward now boys because we’re getting mature and have a 3-4 yr starting QB. BC’s success on the field has never been the result of highly ranked recruiting classes.

by rcmbc81 on Jan 31, 2012 3:31 PM EST reply actions  

Recruiting success does not necessarily follow on-the-field success in every case. It’s a factor, sure, but just one of the many factors that go into whether or not a program has success on the recruiting trail.

There are plenty of examples where programs have excelled recruiting during years where they struggled in terms of W-L. And not just brand-name programs, either.

Good programs / coaches are able to overcome poor single-season results.

“We’re having our worst recruiting year in a while following our worst W-L record in a while” … because we have the worst coach in a while.

by Brian Favat on Jan 31, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

haha

no need to dredge up the debate on your last point Brian – I think you’ve established your opinion on that. As I’ve asked a few times here, what are you going to do and say when we trend upward this year, and even more so in 2013? This program is recovering from the turmoil of 3 coaches in 5 years. We’re not Alabama, Oklahoma or Ohio St – things like that affect a BC more than powerhouse State Us.

You said you agree on my 10 year expectations. So 1 losing season in a decade is not a death spiral. Don’t wait too long Brian to get on-board in 2012. Yeah, we may lose 5 games, so you’ll be able to get your digs in, but when Spaz is here in 2013 and we win 9 or 10…holy smokes, what are you going to do then?

by rcmbc81 on Jan 31, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

One losing season is not a death spiral. Sure.

But several years in a row now where the trend line is clearly negative on the following metrics:

- Wins — Total wins, conference wins, bowl wins
- Recruiting — Classes ranked lower and lower, (hopefully) bottoming out this year
- Attendance — Over a two-year span where ACC programs cycle through Chestnut Hill
- Fan / alumni support — Financially and otherwise
- Total offense ranking — 112 last year (out of 120)
- Total defense ranking — 70 of 120 last year

All in the face of increasing competition (Pitt and Syracuse to the ACC, UMass to I-A). This is the definition of a death spiral.

I have no doubt Spaz will be here in 2013. Gene has made that perfectly clear that it doesn’t matter what our former football players, fans and alumni think.

But let me flip it to you … what happens when this year’s team goes 4-8? Will you finally come around and agree that Coaches Spaz and Flip are not the long-term solution for this program? How many more years can we blame BC’s downward trajectory on the fact that we’ve had 3 coaches in 5 years (which, by the way, was the work of your boy Flip)?

by Brian Favat on Jan 31, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Noted for Post--erity

7-5 in 2012
9-3 in 2013.

Beer is on me for you and Osprey if you kids are right!!!

GO EAGLES!

by BCEagle74 on Jan 31, 2012 4:40 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

If BC wins 7+ games next year, EO and rcmbc81 can take over the blog for an entire week and write about how Spaz is the best coach in the GALAXY and how we are going 14-0 and winning the BCS National Championship in 2013 behind the mad scientists Martin and Spaz and the golden arm of Chase Rettig.

Cool?

by Brian Favat on Jan 31, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

no hyperbole

I’m old Brian, I don’t get too down and I don’t get too up. I’ve never said Spaz is the coach of the galaxy nor have I said we’ll be 14-0 in 2013. Frankly, I’d say 74’s predictions above are about right. Sure, there may be unforseen circumstances which kick it up or down a game or two (like Rettig going down and us going from a 3-4 yr starter to a QB who’s never played), but if you asked me our record the next 2 years, that’s probably exactly what I would have said. And if we’re 9-3 in 2013, we’ll be battling for the Atlantic crown and the ACC Champ game.

To answer your question as to what happens if we’re 4-8, I’d say what Ive already said – Spaz will, and should, be fired. As for GDF, I have no opinion on him. I don’t tie the fortunes of the two together as much as BCI likes to. The job descriptions are far too different. There’s a lot more to the football team’s W-L record on which Fr. Leahy evaluates his athletic dept. That’s one of the things that gets lost or ignored too much in all of these message board and blog debates. Fr. Leahy’s metrics are not the same as 25 yr old blogger alumni’s, and if Fr. Leahy feels the athletic dept is in good hands and representing BC well, nothing more need be said by anybody. Fr Leahy runs that school and by anyone’s account, he runs it well. Back to back Fr Monan and Fr Leahy has made BC a world-class University.

by rcmbc81 on Jan 31, 2012 5:52 PM EST reply actions  

RCMBC81 Old? Old? Old? old?

Playoffs??

I just ran a 40 in the backyard with my daughter and I timed myself in 4.22!

That was 40 feet.

I think my kidneys shut down, I got dizzy, almost fell in dog poop, and my pancreas said FU to my liver and my daughter said,

“How much are you insured for again slowpoke?”

Ungrateful Private School Pistol Mouth. I wish the Salesian Nuns were alive or come outta retirement just to slap the SHXT outta these text messaging menstrual maniacs sassers.

No respect.

by BCEagle74 on Jan 31, 2012 6:10 PM EST up reply actions  

You have me pegged for far younger than I actually am, so … thanks?

by Brian Favat on Jan 31, 2012 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Brian -- Anyone under 50 is a kid!

I’ll let you know when you get to join me and rcmbc81 in our elite 12HP Scooter Brigade!

by BCEagle74 on Jan 31, 2012 8:04 PM EST reply actions  

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