Boston College Football Recruiting Update: January 27
by A.J Black on Jan 27, 2012 8:00 AM EST
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PrintIt's less than a week until National Signing Day and Boston College football continues to struggle to get commitments.
If you came here to look for good news regarding BC recruiting, there actually may be some, as opportunity has basically fallen on Frank Spaziani's lap. Rutgers who lost their head coach Greg Schiano to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, is about to also take a huge blow to their recruiting class as well.
High School coaches in New Jersey have made it pretty clear that their players are open to exploring other schools. Don Bosco Prep Head Coach Greg Toal take on this makes it pretty clear that kids are going to start looking elsewhere:
"They’re young men, they have to make a decision," Toal said. "Things have changed. If Rutgers is smart they calm the waters right away and make a decision who their guy is. They have to do it before signing day. I would think they have to do it pretty quick because there’s too much riding on it."
There are a ton of quality recruits that Rutgers with pre-exisitng BC offers including:
WR Leonte Carroo
TE Mike Giacone
OL Ryan Brodie
... just to name a few.
It's going to be crucial that the Eagles try and get at least one of these Rutgers recruits, because BC has continued to lose key targeted recruits and not just to FBS schools.
Get a load of which school the Eagles' lost TE recruit Jameson McShea to:
"Boston College hasn't had much luck with in-state recruits from the Class of 2012, and another local player slipped off the hook Wednesday when Boston College High tight end Jameson McShea committed to Harvard."
Harvard beat us to a recruit. I hope to all things holy that this kid is valuing getting a diploma from Harvard more than football or Boston College's program is in worse shape than we thought. So a week after losing Sam Grant, Spaz loses a 2 star to Harvard. This is just too absurd.
“I spent a lot of time with Coach Murphy and not much time with Spaz [BC head coach Frank Spaziani],” McShea said. “That's basically what it came down to."
And it just continues to get worse.
Matt Johns, a 3 star quarterback who played at Matt Ryan's high school has decided to play for the Virginia Cavaliers. What helped make his decision? According to Johns, the coaching staff was a big factor in his decision.
"When I went to Boston College I was like, ‘this is it,’" Johns said. "My parents said, ‘let’s go visit Virginia.’ We actually went down and spent a day with the coaches and got to talk with them and then I had a little sit down with Coach [Mike] London. After that point, there was no No. 2 school."
Yesterday, BC lost a recruit to Mike London and Harvard, and it appears that both have to do with Frank Spaziani not doing his job. Both recruits claim that coaching visits by the other school was the main reason and it appears that Spaz wasn't accessible at all. What is he doing?
Not a good day at all, but again all of this can be turned around if Frank Spaziani and his recruiting staff can go and scoop up some of those Rutgers castaways. Anyone have any faith that he can lock any of those kids up and save BC's offseason?
Hopefully he has his phone turned on this time.
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we get nothing, and, in fact, lose current commitments to rutgers new head coach.
you come at the king you best not miss...
Next jersey purchase odds:
JPP - 70%
Kiwi - 20%
KP - 10%
Those quotes are telling
Usually players will say something cliche like, “I like coach X and my visit, but I just felt like place X was the best place for me.”
These two went out of their way to take a shot at Spaz.
by hoyaeagle on Jan 27, 2012 9:15 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Hoya
Your post was dead balls on like these kids were all saying….
“Spazoo has turned off his intensity and animal ferocity for the recruiting game.
……..and if you want to come to BC, consider yourself blessed to play for me and my 4th Offensive Coordinator in 2 seasons!"
AJ’s superb post was like a sharp pain in my ass.
The Matt John’s line about our House Stooges was damning!
BC should hire Greg Toal as Assistant Head Coach before 2012.
The football paradigm is all about talent and recruiting and has been since 1930.
If GT can help guide 4-7 top 4 and 5 star players from the PA, NY, NJ, corridor than that would be super!
BC lacks speed, and skilled position talent.
McShea@Harvard
I think the kid made the right call. He was very lightly regarded by BC and it highly valued. He was a plan B replacement recruit – even though Sam Grant was disrespecting BC for weeks, if not months. McShea also would be behind a stud 4 star redshirt frosh TE at BC. He was not looking at a lot of PT.
Kid must be very bright too. Yes, AJ, getting a Harvard diploma is a life-changing event. I am sure the choice of Harvard ovef BC was a close to a no-brainer. I bet Harvard football will be more fun for McShea too. I do not think the choice has anything to do with Spaz – much as you seem to want to denigrate Spaz.
Good luck McShea. I hope you kick as at Harvard and get a great education tool.
by eagleosprey on Jan 27, 2012 9:37 AM EST via mobile reply actions
You’re right. This has nothing to do with Spaz …
"I spent a lot of time with Coach Murphy and not much time with Spaz [BC head coach Frank Spaziani]," McShea said. "That’s basically what it came down to."
Editor, BC Interruption
I think you putting too much stock into the words of a 17 year old. I am sure his parents said, ’what are you nuts?.. go to HARVARD." Really for a marginal BC candidate who has got smarts, Harvard is the way to go.
but do not let me stop you and AJ, and you new nattering nabob of negativity (74) stop you from pointless and relentless bashing.
McShea: "Harvard is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. Not many people get that chance" -- how right he is.
"It was a really hard decision because I had been hoping to go to BC for a long time," McShea said. "It was my dream school, but Harvard is the dream school for everybody around the world.
"It basically came down to where I was more comfortable. Where I felt at home."
"Coach Devine was very accepting when I told him. He wished me well. Obviously the ACC is a bigger league than the Ivy League. Football is more of your life at BC than it is at Harvard, which is not a problem for me because I love football. It’s just that the opportunity Harvard presents after college is amazing.
McShea said the opportunity for playing time early in his career, and his relationship with Harvard head coach Tim Murphy were also key factors in his decision.
"I spent a lot of time with Coach Murphy and not much time with Spaz [BC head coach Frank Spaziani]," McShea said. "That’s basically what it came down to.
McShea attended Harvard’s games against Dartmouth and Penn last season. He said he had a strong feeling Harvard was the school and program for him when he was in the locker room following Harvard’s victory over Penn.
"I just had a good feeling when I saw all the teammates," he said. "When I received my acceptance letter I had a pretty strong feeling I was heading there. The last few days I was just making sure Harvard was the place for me.
Bash NOT BCI
I hope you ‘stache bashing bastards noW see that your BAD BC bashing BE bogus. Kid went To Harvard because DUH??? who wouldn’t???
. IS THIS ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT IS TOO HARD FOR BCI TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE BCI IS WEARING THE ’STACHE BASHING GOGGLES?
Totally agree with osprey.
Harvard should win every recruit worthy of their attention.
For BC Nation: National SIGHING Day.
Those quotes are telling. Usually players will say something cliche like, "I like coach X and my visit, but I just felt like place X was the best place for me." These two went out of their way to take a shot at Spaz.
This is why years ago I named him Spazoo.
This is why I posted in September, that word was out all over America about Spazoo, GDF and BC.
This is why BC will not be getting many 4 and 5 star skilled athletes and the parents know too and the kids know and so does Leahy and the BOT-winkies.
This is why the lame excuses about Kevin Rogers.
This is why everyone is so pessimistic.
This is the witnessing since January of 2009 after the sham GDF National Search, the 3 year 1-11 versus TOP 25 teams, the insanity of a 2 year extension for poor performance and the excuse to improve recruiting (yeah that worked!), … that the greatest University in the Galaxy is now run by incompetent lazy House Stooges.
More more ending signature phrases for me, but make no mistake, the last 3 recruiting classes, 4 is you do not give Spazoo a pass for 2009, were all
National SIGHING Day for my Eagle Nation.
Super post there AJ.
I have never been more DISGUSTIAD!
This is why everyone is so pessimistic. . . Super post there AJ.
Do Not Encourage the DARK SIDE on the impressionable AJ.
by eagleosprey on Jan 27, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
Like I have said before – would you buy a used car from Spaz? If he can’t sell to any of us how on earth do we expect him to sell a kid on making a huge commitment for four years?
If I was hiring a coach today – I’d look at his recruiting success in year 2 and 3 more than anything else. That doesn’t mean everybody he recruited isn’t good but if the overall painting is mediocre – the odds are stacked against you. You need a salesman first and our guy couldn’t sell a box of doughnuts at a police convention.
FYI guys
Matt Johns committed to UVA way, way back in, like, June.
by MaizeAndBlueWahoo on Jan 27, 2012 2:18 PM EST reply actions
Eagle Action reporting Donovan Henry has decommitted. Also not Spaz’s fault.
Editor, BC Interruption
'stache bash sterd
Also not Spaz’s fault.
It really pains you to have lost the McShea argument (not that you would ever admit it)
So how is this Spaz’s fault you ’Stache Basher?
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Donavon Henry is already off of the BC Rival’s page. Might he too be headed for Harvard?
You thinking you somehow won the Harvard vs. BC argument is a joke.
What everyone failed to mention is there is a significant economic component of a HS kids decision on where to matriculate. BC is able to offer the kid a free, four year education vs. having to shell out over $160k over four years for an education from Harvard.
Is Harvard going away a better academic institution than BC? Of course.
But the economic factor cannot be understated. This will be a factor in many HS recruits. I know if I had presented my options to my parents at the time — get a free education at a Top 30 university vs. pay $160k for a Harvard education — it would not have been so cut and dry.
Only a dolt of a used car salesman can’t close on a kid when you are giving something away from free vs. asking their parents to pay close to $200k for an education.
Editor, BC Interruption
Hence, BC should be able to turn many recruits also considering Harvard because they can offer a FULL RIDE. There is no reason BC should lose out every time on a football player that is also considering Harvard.
But please, keep the Spaz excuse train / BCI bashing coming. It’s quite comical.
Editor, BC Interruption
BC with expenses is what $65K-$70K
A $260K after tax bunny.
That would mean in a welfare queen health care socialist state like Massachusetts, that is what a $435K or more in pre-tax earnings wuith a state tax?
I guess if you have the pocket change, Harvard is the call and you can drop $110K a year in income.
If not, someone else is clueless?
U r clueless too
It is not about tuition, it about the opportunities in life uniquely available to Harvard graduates. Harvard really is all that. BC + $250,000 in The bank does not even come close to being a Harard grad. Just the way it is.
Even if it was, about $$, which it is not, If you earn less than $250,000, Harvard is quite generous with aid.
U r just trying suck up to Brian as his anger grows from getting blown out of the water (water) on this one!
Keep 7444444444 ing
by eagleosprey on Jan 27, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
And do not rely on Brian on this point. He did not know until I told him last summer! that Holy Cross was an excellent academic school.
by eagleosprey on Jan 27, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
Its First and Toal for Spaz
from the 30 yard line with this year’s recruiting class. Is Brian Toal out of football now or on Don Bosco’s coaching staff? Could we pull an Arkansas a la a few years ago Springdale High school and bring Brian on the coaching staff in exchange for commits from the rest of these kids?
BC...
Needs to expand beyond Spaz’ East Coast, good fellas recruiting BS. They need to go West and develop Catholic school pipelines like they seem to have in Cincy. Not necessarily bc the players are Catholic but bc in most states without these uppity east coast prep schools, the Catholic school programs attract the elite talent to their schools. I feel like a New Jersey 5 star is the equivalent of an Ohio, Pennsylvania, Texas, California, or Florida 2 Star athlete.
by grebek on Jan 27, 2012 5:48 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Look At Our Peer Schools and Who We Play Recruiting Hauls -- THE TOP 30!!
Virginia Tech - Last 4 Meets have been torch jobs- RG3 Effect like Flutie..but the Bears a a new House Want Titles now! WOW!
Baylor -
Vanderbilt — Incredible commitment by Commodore Nation!
Pittsburgh — Coming to ACC!
Stanford — Made Football Recruiting Job 1 at nations best Academic school
TCU — Just like BC, except they have a new $150M house and a superb Coach
Florida State — Almost best class in America. 3 straight huge hauls!
Clemson — Yuba Dabo Do… And BC is left in the doo-doo
Notre Dame - Kelly loading up on speed and more speed.- What a huge class in numbers and speed and talent
Miami -
Question: Does the BC Staff do things like this below?
Urban Meyer said what all Coaches have said for 50 years, you win with talent and recruiting is Jobs 1-10 and you have to plant seeds and cultivate your home base and dominate where you play!
Gary Patterson Head Coach at TCU taught the Bible Study reading at our Sunday School last week and he has done this many times in the past.
My daughter had the honor of sitting next to Andy Dalton /Bengals and his future wife in a few of the past sessions.
Do not think that the area football players and community AND THEIR PARENTS!!! understand that the man behind the TCU headset is that same solid man that when he comes to recruit their kids at the house, and some HS football players who attend are that top Texas level, — that he is the same guy who teaches Bible study at their Church!
I am not saying our staff does not do this, but it is worth noting since TCU is really moving on up the recruiting class rankings lately and their record in the past 3 years is spectacular!
I have great pictures of Dalton chucking a TD pass to my daughter and with him afterwards. She was one of the few that caught the ball and the pictures are priceless of her working out with the TCU team!
The bad news is her mother will not let her play football (disgraciad!) and she doesn’t want to go to BC and win another Heisman for the Heights! My parenting skills are worthless and of course I am a nattering nobob of negativity.
Go check where BC is at now and the ratings and rankings and the 5 ACC schools listed above and ask yourself one question since 2009 like Urban Meyer said…
Is BC making progress?
Bye now!
NNON74
From this year’s class, OL Jim Cashman, OL Frank Taylor and LB Bobby Wolford all have offers from Harvard. It’s a miracle that BC has been able to hold onto these guys.
I mean, doesn’t Harvard > BC every time? – Every Spaz apologist, ever
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