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Should ACC Football Move To A Nine Game Conference Schedule?

This week, the Big Ten announced that the conference would be moving to a nine-game conference schedule in football starting in 2017. I have been a big advocate of the ACC making a similar move once the current conference schedule runs its course after the 2015 season.

Here's what I wrote about a possible 9-game ACC football schedule back in May:

"But I think a 9-game conference schedule is the next logical step. It probably won't happen right away given that the conference and ESPN are just heading into a 12 year media rights deal, but I think it will happen eventually. The Big 12(-2) is moving to a 9-game, round-robin conference schedule. The Pac-12 is keeping its 9-game rotation, and they were handsomely rewarded by TV for the extra game inventory. The schedule format is on the agenda during the B1G Ten's spring meetings, and if the Big East moves to 10 teams and invites Villanova or UCF or Houston or UMass or Don Bosco Prep, my guess is the conference will also move to a nine game, round-robin format.

A nine-game conference schedule would give the conference a larger inventory of games for its television partners and decrease the costs associated with luring hapless, I-AA and MAC opponents to campus (but these games, unfortunately, aren't the ones most likely to be removed from the schedule). The downside is that the so-called "elite programs" like Florida State might balk at the conference adding an extra hurdle to reaching the BCS at an at-large. For the past few years, only the Pac-12 has played a 9-game conference schedule and the conference has found it difficult to earn an at-large berth to the BCS. Correlation or causation? Further, the ACC has yet to produce a BCS at-large playing an 8-game sched ..."

Other ACC bloggers are big proponents of this proposal as well, and today Eagle in Atlanta added yet another reason why you should be excited about this idea:

"The 9th ACC games provides ESPN with more valuable content. Plus, if I understand it correctly, it would allow the conference to reopen the current deal. In addition to the money a smart deal would require that a high percentage of the 9th games get carried on ESPN or ESPN 2. By doing that ESPN would have less room for any potential Big East games. And they certainly wouldn't go paying a premium for them. With fewer bidders, the Big East's deal with Versus/NBC Cable or Fox would be less lucrative." 

To recap, moving to a 9-game conference schedule would pit BC up against one of its traditional rivals on the gridiron more often (Miami), decrease payouts for guarantee games against MACrificial lambs and FCS opponents and put another ACC Coastal Division team on the annual schedule. PLUS opening up the possibility of sticking it to the Big East? Where do we sign up?

Over the past few days though, I've been getting a bit of cold feet about any possible move to a nine-game conference schedule. Here's why.

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While a move to 9-conference games would benefit a school like BC in numerous ways outlined above, I'm beginning to question the benefit of this plan. Especially now with both Notre Dame and Syracuse locked into long-term series with the Eagles. If the conference moved to a nine game conference schedule, would one of these two series have to inevitably fall off BC's annual schedule?

With the limit of regular season college football games still set at 12 (that is, without a trip to Hawaii), would you really expect GDF to continue to put together an annual football schedule that includes 9 ACC opponents, Notre Dame and Syracuse? While I am a big proponent of this sort of tough scheduling, I just can't see the AD moving to a schedule that annually has 11 regular season games against BCS AQ opponents. Particularly not with the way the current incentives structure is set up in college football.

We can use history as a bit of a guide here. The Pac-10 (now Pac-12) was the first BCS conference to adopt a nine-game conference format, moving to a nine-game sched for the 2006 season after the NCAA approved programs playing a 12-game regular season. Let's take a look at the types of non-conference opponents the Pac-10 programs have brought in from 2006-2011.

After the Pac-10 moved to a nine-game conference sched, the conference broke down into two neat little camps in terms of non-conference scheduling philosophy. Generally, there are the programs that schedule "anyone, anytime" and those that are happy to schedule one additional BCS opponent and a pair of speed bumps.

Programs like USC, Stanford, UCLA, Washington and (to a lesser extent) Cal haven't been afraid to schedule more than one BCS conference opponent in non-conference play over the past few years. In fact, USC and UCLA are two of the three remaining I-A programs who have yet to schedule a program from college football's lower division (Notre Dame being the other).

On the other end of the Pac-10 non-conference scheduling spectrum are programs like Arizona, Arizona State, Oregon State and more recently, Washington State. These programs have no qualms with scheduling one BCS non-conference opponent and a combination of lesser Mountain West, WAC and Division I-AA programs to round out the annual football schedule. Naturally the logic here is that the nine-game Pac-10 schedule is challenging enough so best to schedule a few wins that can get your program closer to bowl eligibility.

Pac-10 non-conference scheduling heat map below (click to enlarge)

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Orange cells = BCS AQ + Notre Dame, light blue = non-AQ, white = I-AA opponent

First, let me say I realize the above is a gross simplification -- teams like BYU, Utah, TCU and Boise State are much tougher outs than many, many BCS AQ conference opponents. Pac-10 programs also had less flexibility in scheduling in the first few years after the move to nine games, so some schedules in 2006, 2007 and 2008 may not be indicative of the general philosophy of the athletics department (think BC's non-conf schedules immediately following the move to the ACC). That said, you can start to see how the Pac-10 breaks down when it comes to non-conference scheduling philosophies.

The reason the above is important is that should the ACC move to a nine-game conference schedule, ADs will have a decision to make. Will they continue to schedule tough, adding multiple BCS Big Six opponents (and Notre Dame) to the non-conference schedule? Or will they play it conservative, leveraging the blueprint laid down by several programs in the Pac-10? A blueprint that includes scheduling just one non-conf BCS opponent, a non-AQ and a Division I-AA program.

If I had to wager a guess, I'd think BC would opt for the latter over the former. This is where BC would then face a tough choice.

While there is no telling what will come of the Notre Dame series after this new six-game deal runs its course (or the Syracuse deal, for that matter), BC currently does have two long-term deals with BCS AQ programs -- Notre Dame and Syracuse -- both of which just so happen to be two of the Eagles' more traditional gridiron rivals. Would GDF opt to let one of these two deals expire without a renewal if the ACC moves to nine conference games? If so, which one?

Would BC trading one of these two series in for more Georgia Tech, North Carolina, Virginia, Duke and Miami really be in the best interest of the program? Unlike some other ACC programs who may not have many traditional rivals outside of the conference -- the founding ACC members like Virginia, Maryland and the Carolina schools come to mind -- BC maintains two significant non-conference rivalries in Notre Dame and Syracuse.

There are also some difficulties in adding two BCS non-conference opponents to the schedule as those programs would likely demand home-and-homes, which may make scheduling difficult in years where the program plays five conference road games. In fact, Michigan's AD recently took this point so far as to say that he won't schedule any non-conference road games other than games against Notre Dame. And while Michigan Stadium seats a few more fans than Alumni Stadium, the financial benefits of having a 7-8 game home schedule versus 5-6 are fairly obvious.

Would the BC AD adopt a Stanford, USC or UCLA mentality here -- keeping both Notre Dame and Syracuse on future schedules? Or would a future three-game BC non-conference schedule look more like:

-- Notre Dame OR Syracuse
-- UMass or other MACrificial lamb
-- I-AA opponent (e.g. New Hampshire, Maine, Rhode Island, Fordham)

Again, if push comes to shove, my guess is BC would choose the latter. While I am all for seeing Miami on the schedule more than four times in ten, in those other seasons, a Notre Dame or Syracuse trade for Georgia Tech, Duke, Virginia or North Carolina isn't exactly a fair one for the ACC's northernmost program.

Basically, I'm now torn on this issue. I suppose a lot depends on how you think GDF and the Boston College athletic department would play this thing. But if you think a BCS AQ non-conference opponent would disappear from the Eagles future schedules, I'm not sure a nine-game conference schedule is in the best interests of BC, even with the numerous benefits that come with upping the number of ACC conference games. 

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9 game conference

I really want this even with the possibility of Syracuse or Notre Dame leaving the schedule. Also, with the Big 10 moving to the 9 game schedule, I don’t want the ACC to be the last conference to change over in the next decade…jump on the possible trend early!

by D-Murph on Aug 5, 2011 5:35 PM EDT reply actions  

I could see the SEC being the last hold out in moving to the 9-game conference schedule. Gotta get those body bag games against Wofford, Jacksonville State, Charleston Southern and the Citadel in, you know.

by Brian Favat on Aug 5, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another advantange

Another advantage of the 9-game schedule is it levels the playing field more by forcing BC’s competition to play Virginia Tech more. Never been a fan of the unbalanced schedule as BC has to face Virginia Tech every year while Wake gets Duke and Maryland gets Virginia.

Though home games against non-Virginia Tech, non-Miami Coastal opponents are poor draws at Alumni.

by Brian Favat on Aug 5, 2011 6:32 PM EDT reply actions  

against it, but only just

first off nice detailed article

I am against a 9 game schedule just because it puts a further limit on our ability to schedule out of conference games. Not that we do this now, but my dream would be that GDF would be willing/able to schedule one nationally semi-appealing game a year, like our scheduled home and home with USC, partly to grow the program and partly because BC’s alumni base is becoming more geographically diverse (alums outside of the northeast want to see games too).

My only leaning towards a 9 game schedule is so we get miami more frequently (I only had one home game against miami in my time at BC).

by miz36 on Aug 5, 2011 6:32 PM EDT reply actions  

It's a great point

Even if BC decided to keep both Syracuse and Notre Dame on the schedule in the same year, this dramatically limits the exposure and national reach the program could get by scheduling home-and-homes with USC, Northwestern, Stanford, BYU, Penn State etc.

Because with 9 ACC + Notre Dame + Syracuse + I-AA (which isn’t going anywhere) gives you no room to schedule anyone else.

I have doubts that BC would even schedule more than one BCS non-conf opponent in any given year, which further limits your options if you want to play anywhere other than in the Northeast, the Atlantic Coast or South Bend.

by Brian Favat on Aug 5, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not going to lie...

I wouldn’t hate seeing gold helmets and numbers, maroon shirts, and black pants more often.

by seaboard on Aug 5, 2011 6:43 PM EDT reply actions  

How about the decision from the conference perspective?

I can see why BC might be torn over this. I suspect FSU, GT and Clemson might have concerns as well with their SEC rivalries locked in. I doubt Miami and VT are anxious to play Wake and Maryland more often, either. Are the financial considerations sufficient to overcome these objections?

I suppose the other 6 might be excited by this, so they can play each other, VT and the FL schools more often.

Do you think this would get approved in a vote by the ACC?

by br27 on Aug 5, 2011 9:17 PM EDT reply actions  

The ACC analyzed a 9 and 10 game conference format over the past year and voted against it. Though I don’t know if the conf considered whether the Big Ten and Big East would also move to a 9-game format.

by Brian Favat on Aug 5, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

For Miami, the Canes might be for this proposal since it forces their Coastal competition to play Florida State more often. Same reason this should be somewhat interesting to BC, since it forces everyone else in the Atlantic to face Virginia Tech more often.

by Brian Favat on Aug 5, 2011 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

What's the consensus on locking a second rival?

Are people looking to lock a complementary 2nd “rival” and then play 2 of the other 4 each year, allowing all the inter-divisional games to be balanced in pairs? It would reduce the unfairness you mention, and still let you play everybody more often.

by br27 on Aug 5, 2011 9:45 PM EDT reply actions  

The idea got shot down, but I would imagine the best 9-game model discussed did not include a second protected cross-divisional game for fairness.

What would they be?

BC-Miami
Florida State-Georgia Tech
Clemson-Virginia (?)
Maryland-Virginia Tech (?)
NC State-Duke
Wake Forest-North Carolina

Not really a clean configuration.

by Brian Favat on Aug 6, 2011 3:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you were doing it for balance

Then they should look something like:
FSU-NC
Clemson-UVA
BC-Duke
MD-GT
NCSU-Miami
WF-VT

That would balance out the other locked rival and make all the schedules more equally difficult. That doesn’t mean everyone will be excited by the match-ups, and you could make some adjustments if you want to keep a rivalry. Then the ACC can take the remaining 4 teams and pair them up to make 2 pairs of equivalent difficulty that rotate on and off the schedule. For BC, that could be Miami & UNC and GT & UVA.

by br27 on Aug 6, 2011 12:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Sorry

Meant to reply to you, Brian.

by br27 on Aug 6, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Protected cross-overs

I’ve never been a fan of the protected cross-overs to begin with. If the ACC ever moves to a nine-game conference schedule, I really hope that they don’t add a second protected cross-over and just cycle through non-intradivision opponents more frequently (6 in 10 instead of 4 in 10).

The protected cross-overs were set up to ensure Florida State and Miami meet in the regular season annually and this maintained the possibility of a rematch in the ACC Championship Game (which we are still waiting on). If the conference had switched out BC for Georgia Tech, the protected cross-overs would have made much more sense in my opinion:

FSU-Miami
Clemson-BC
Georgia Tech-Virginia Tech
Maryland-Virginia
Wake Forest-Duke
N.C. State-North Carolina

This moves FSU-GT (FSU’s fourth rival?) and BC-Miami back into the divisions and the only ones you’d hear rumbles from is maybe the Carolina schools.

Anyway, I would have preferred the old Big 12 scheduling model (5+3) to the current SEC model (5+2+1), but this obviously doesn’t work if FSU and Miami are in separate divisions.

by Brian Favat on Aug 6, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

From a BC standpoint

I can totally understand not wanting the locked games despite having some history with VT. Unfortunately for you, the other 5 games make a lot of sense so the ACC probably made the right decision overall based on the divisions they selected.

I assume their concern with swapping BC and GT was putting 3 of the 4 deep south teams with a football focus in one division, but your version seems pretty fair. I might swap the games to get Clemson/VT (2 non-urban schools with a FB focus) and GT/BC (2 urban schools with strong academics) instead but that’s not a major change.

Did the ACC, or BC’s AD, ever explain why they chose the divisions the way they did?

by br27 on Aug 6, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Possibility?

Do you think there’s a possibility of the NCAA adding another regular season game – i.e. making the limit 13 instead of 12? Wasn’t it not that long ago that teams used to run on an 11-game regular season schedule? I know back in our Big East days we played an 11-game schedule a lot…

Since 9-game conference schedules seems to be a trend now, I’m wondering if the NCAA would consider allowing for an extra regular season game so the number of inter-conference games doesn’t shrink.

by bcfan131 on Aug 6, 2011 2:06 PM EDT reply actions  

The NCAA approved a 12-game sched for the 2006 season.

In my opinion it’s a difficult line to toe given that the NCAA wants to maintain the appearances of a non-profit and that they care about the academic calendar of student-athletes. Seems a bit two-faced if you are arguing against a playoff because of the academic calendar but approve a 13th game which would be looked at as nothing more than a pure money grab.

It’s a possibility, but I think it’s a slim chance of happening so soon after moving to 12 games.

by Brian Favat on Aug 6, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Being two-faced hasn’t stopped the NCAA in the past. And proponents of more games could argue that it’s not just for money, but it better allows us to determine a “true” champion with more conferences games (see Jim Delaney’s comments about the benefits of a 9-game conf schedule) while not decreasing the number of inter-conference games. How are we supposed to know which conference is better than the other if teams are playing less games against other conferences? Typically, the BCS just chooses the best teams from what are perceived to be the best two conferences (SEC + Pac/B1G/Big XII) and finding out what is the best conference, and thus determing who’s deserving of a BCS title game bid, will be that much harder with less OOC games At least I think that’s what I think proponents of an increased schedule would argue.

That being said, I’m all for a playoff, as are most people who have common sense and aren’t affiliated with a bowl game.

by bcfan131 on Aug 6, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m also a playoff proponent but don’t see the NCAA able to argue the benefits of a 13th game to determine a “truer” champion when they are combating any playoff proposal (plus 1, eight teams) by saying that a playoff would push out the season and affect student-athletes exam schedules.

Besides, a 13th game would just be used on a I-AA or non-AQ opponent anyhow such that BCS AQ programs could get another game on campus (and the corresponding payout).

by Brian Favat on Aug 6, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also

You run the very real problem of extending the season into the summer term. School presidents really don’t like to have sports cover multiple terms. You also start having a lot of games before the students are in school. I think 12 games is locked in for a while unless they find a way to add a week in December, but that starts to run into finals. I’m guessing the presidents will draw a line at 12.

by br27 on Aug 6, 2011 2:31 PM EDT reply actions  

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