SB Nation Conference Re-Draft: Twelve Rounds Complete
by Brian Favat on Aug 22, 2011 12:01 PM EDT
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We've now completed twelve rounds of the SB Nation Conference Re-Draft. Here are your round 12 results.
Round 12
-- Red Cup Rebellion: Central Florida
-- House of a Thousand Sanctions: Georgetown
-- Big East Coast Bias: Kansas State
-- The Empire: Fresno State
-- Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants: Villanova
-- Twelve Pack: Northwestern
The Twelve Pack was thrilled to nab Northwestern with the 72nd pick in the draft. Northwestern gives us another school with strong academics in one of the largest TV markets in the country. Between Minnesota, Wisconsin, Purdue and now Northwestern, the Twelve Pack has the Chicago market on lock. The 'Cats also give the Twelve Pack a solid up-and-coming football program under coach Pat Fitzgerald.
Though the Wildcats are famous for being the only major conference basketball program to never make the NCAA men's basketball Tournament, we're working on it (though we aren't doing the 'Cats any favors by adding them to a conference that includes Duke, U.C.L.A., Texas, Purdue, Wisconsin and Washington).
Northwestern makes 12 for the Twelve Pack and at the risk of opening ourselves up for jokes about our conference name, we're stopping at 12 programs. The Twelve Pack finishes with four Big Ten programs, four ACC programs, two Pac-12 programs, Georgia from the SEC and Texas from the Big 12.
SB Nation Conference Re-Draft results below:
Comissioners and Conference names: BCI: Twelve Pack; BHGP: Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants; TSK: The Empire (working title); BECB: Conference TMZ; HoS: House of a Thousand Sanctions; RCR: The Cult Of Les Miles.
We'll have a 1-2 more posts for this project in the next week or so to wrap this up before the season begins. We'll have profiles of Washington and (hopefully) Northwestern as well as a post announcing the divisions, Championship Game location and the schedule.
In the meantime, head on over to Sippin' On Purple to welcome the newest member of the Twelve Pack.
What do you think of the Twelve Pack? How would you break up the conference into divisions? Where we hosting the Championship Game?
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Nicely done
Northwestern was pretty much a gift as Mr. Irrelevant of the first 12 rounds. We’re not quite done yet, but I do highly respect the academics in your conference.
From a football standpoint? It’s slightly less respectable, but you couldn’t be the best at everything. It’s quite representative of a BCS conference in today’s NCAA, which is a compliment.
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Thanks Cory
I respect the Georgetown pick — yet another rivalry to the House of 1K Sanctions with SU-Georgetown hoops — but never seriously entertained the thought of managing a Big East-like football/basketball split. Good luck with your last set of picks.
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by Brian Favat on Aug 22, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
FWIW
I’m shocked you didn’t take Navy with the 12th pick… and even more shocked that no one else took them when you didn’t.
I'm kind of pissed
That you didn’t take Navy. I mean, Northwestern? Yay, another purple team, but seriously? The men of Navy… yum, yum, YUM.
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by jazzaholic17 on Aug 23, 2011 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Commish is a BC and Northwestern grad. NU more upside in football and hoops.
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I was surprised they didn't take NW too
or at least Navy (in that order). While I understand the Georgetown pick, it’s still came out of left field to me.
Georgetown was probably still available this round.
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by Brian Favat on Aug 23, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow
Almost amazing that Northwestern made it to you. And yet…looking at the picks of all the rest of the squads in the later rounds its as if they had no idea who all was actually in College Athletics. One conference picked Florida Atlantic and then Central Florida? Another picked Georgetown? Villanova? I get that this is all for fun, but seriously, why pick these schools? So odd.
Regardless, looks like BCI ended up with the best overall conference, and some of the best tailgating, football, basketball, co-eds, and olympic sports (Clemson/UGA/Texas in a baseball conference? Good night). Congrats, and way to stick to your formula. Oh, and if you have to pick any more schools, i’d advise University of Phoenix.
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Twelve Pack Baseball
U.C.L.A. and Virginia say hello.
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by Brian Favat on Aug 22, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't forget....
…women’s lacrosse. UVa, Duke, and Northwestern are consistently among the best in the nation (NU has won 5 of last 6 titles)
I don't get FAU
But this late in the process, you can make a decent case that a pure basketball play like Georgetown or Villanova (though it’s possible BHGP is planning on having ’Nova upgrade to FBS) is a better value than some of the FBS football schools left on the board.
don't worry, everyone else does to
And since they’re well on their way to returning to being Rutgers (there’s not enough talent for SU, UConn, and Rutgers to be good at the same time, and with GERG gone, SU will get some of it).
If there’s not enough talent for SU, UConn and Rutgers to be good at the same time, what happens when you add Villanova to the mix?
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by Brian Favat on Aug 23, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Thoughts on the re-draft
12 Pack is certainly a solid conference in bball, baseball, non-revenues, academics, etc, but it will struggle mightily in football. I’d say Sisterhood has the best football conference hands down with their first 5 picks, TCU, and TT making a monster Big 7, any of whom could threaten for a BCS birth (the recent Miami allegations notwithstanding). TMZ is probably 2nd in that regard, with OSU, FSU, WVU, Utah, and Boise.
For bball, I’d say House has the best conference, with UK, Cuse, Pitt and G’town, serving as a monster front line, and Oregon, USC, Tenn, and ND all showing flashes of excellence from time to time. TMZ is again probably 2nd with OSU, L’ville, MSU, WVU, UMD, and KSU all very solid bball schools.
Les Miles seems to be the weakest conference in bball. UNC should go 16-0 in bball every year and in football they’re probably #5 in front of only the 12-pack.
another thought
HoS should add some more non-FB schools to bump up their bball resume. Zaga, St. Marys, Xavier, Temple. Maybe let Temple play football, so u have 12 in football and 16 total
After 12 picks
You can see the difference between those who went for best available and those who stuck to a strategy. Of course some strategies are easier to figure out than others. I think Sisterhood gets the award for “Most reach picks”.
Conference Divisions
Western Division:
Washington
UCLA
Texas
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Northwestern
Eastern Division:
Purdue
BC
Virginia
Clemson
Duke
Georgia
Championship Game in either Chicago or Dallas.
OR
Twelve Pack North
Boston College
Northwestern
Wisconsin
Purdue
Minnesota
Washington
South
Texas
UCLA
Georgia
Clemson
Duke
Virginia
South would be pretty dominant, and travel would be tough in both divisions having to travel across the country within each division. But, it could still work…
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by jazzaholic17 on Aug 23, 2011 2:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Alternate alignment
Since the draft wasn’t based on geography, why split the conference along geographic lines? How about based on draft order as a way of balancing out schools based on their relative value?
(And since this conference is straight rolling in dough, we will sell our division names to corporate beer sponsors)
Shiner Bock Division: Texas, UCLA, Washington, Clemson, Boston College, Purdue
Sweetwater IPA Division: Georgia, Wisconsin, Duke, Virginia, Minnesota, Northwestern
Keeps UCLA-Washington, Clemson-BC, Wisconsin-Minnesota, Duke-Virginia and Wisconsin-Northwestern within the division.
Protected cross-overs:
Washington-Wisconsin, Clemson-Georgia, Boston College-Duke, Purdue-Minnesota, UCLA-Northwestern (a little weak), Texas-Virginia (also weak)
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by Brian Favat on Aug 23, 2011 6:51 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This Has My Vote
I like the thought of staying away from geography.
Preserving Washington/UCLA is a big one, as is protecting Washington/Wisconsin, so it has basically everything I desire in a conference line-up. You could also though go with the water cooler theory, which is kind of hard to explain on a blog, but… here’s an example that someone put together last year:
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l53r0tysa21qbymuj.jpg
And the explanation:
“Teams would always play their side of the graphic, PLUS the teams in their row every season. Then they would play 2 of the remaining 4 teams. This results in every team playing every other team twice out of every four years, and at least once in each stadium over a four-year college career. All teams would have exposure to each region of the Pac-10 every year and would also play all their regional rivals.”
I’m not entirely sure how it would work in terms of the 12 Pac, but perhaps it would be something like:
Washington, UCLA Wisconsin, Northwestern
Texas, Clemson Virginia, Georgia
Boston College, Purdue Minnesota, Duke
Granted, I’m not sure just how I feel about UCLA and Duke not playing every year in basketball, so maybe that could be an exception?
Maybe the water cooler is just a better graphic of what you did Brian…
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by jazzaholic17 on Aug 23, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I like this alignment...
along with the rotating championship game in 3-4 major cities.
Year of founding
Leinenkugel Division (Old Guard): Georgia, Virginia, Duke, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Northwestern
Sam Adams Division (New Batch): Washington, Boston College, Purdue, Texas, Clemson, UCLA
Keeps UCLA-Washington, BC-Clemson, Duke-Virginia, Wisconsin-Minnesota, Wisconsin-Northwestern all in the same division.
Protected cross-overs:
Georgia-Clemson, Wisconsin-Washington, Minnesota-Purdue, Duke-UCLA, Virginia-Texas (weak), Northwestern-Boston College
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I'd switch UT and PU
That would keep all former conference mates together, which would help make it feel more like a conference. Make the first division the N & W division and the other the S & E division.
The SE would be a little better in FB, but WI, UW and UCLA can balance UT, UGA and Clemson/BC decently. MBB would be unaffected. Baseball will be dominated by the SE division.
Twelve Pack North/West: Washington, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Northwestern, Purdue, Boston College
Twelve Pack South/East: UCLA, Texas, Georgia, Clemson, Duke, Virginia
None of the cross-overs here make sense though. Could play 10 game football schedule, home-and-home within your division as an alternative.
Championship game rotates between Chicago, Dallas, LA and Atlanta.
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I'd probably switch UT and PU
That would keep the old B10 teams, and all former conference mates in fact, together. Make the first division the N & W division and the other the S & E division.
The SE would be a little better in FB, but WI, UW and UCLA can balance UT, UGA and Clemson/BC decently. MBB would be unaffected. Baseball will be dominated by the SE division.
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Overall
Definitely the best conference. Hands down. And the most intelligently chosen.
The thing is, someone has to lose. And we saw this year after year in the Pac-10; it makes for some really good post season to have a super competitive conference. In volleyball… there were 9 pac-10 teams, and usually seven of them were in the top 25, five in the top ten. Similar with softball. It makes you so much stronger in the post season. Football it can get kind of dicey, and somewhat counter productive, but it’s still amazing knowing that going in every week it’s a bombshell and that seriously every team can rock you.
As for the other conferences… RCR is kind of a head scratcher. They’re pretty legit until the 8th round at which point you go ‘… wtf’. HoS is definitely the second best conference overall.
Brian, great job. Thrilled to renew Washington’s rivalry with UCLA, and thrilled to truly start and sustain one with Wisco. You’re a phenomenal conference commissioner and I can’t thank-you enough for picking Washington. Once all of the stuff is decided in terms of the schedule and all of that, I’m definitely creating a poster or notebook or something to some effect so I can track everything all year… I hope this doesn’t completely die just because football actually starts in LESS THAN TWO WEEKS!!!
Go 12-Pac!!!
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Divisions split pretty cleanly here, seems to me.
North:
U-Dub
Minnesota
Wisconsin
Northwestern
Purdue
BC
South:
UCLA
Texas
Georgia
Duke
Virginia
Clemson
And how about this… since the championship game is always likely to be Wisconsin against either Texas or Georgia, how about we have the Championship Game in Dallas when it’s Wisky/Texas, Atlanta when it’s Wisky/Georgia, and Chicago when it’s anyone else?
No geography. No, no, no geography.
Except in keeping traditional rivalries, so Washington and UCLA wouldn’t be split, Minnesota and Wisconsin, etc.
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by jazzaholic17 on Aug 23, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Nicely done
I’d say you’d want to split competitively and then by markets.
Lagers:
Texas
Washington
Clemson
Boston College
Purdue
Minnesota
Liters:
Georgia
UCLA
Wisconsin
Northwestern
Virginia
Duke
Crossovers:
Georgia Clemson
Minnesota Wisconsin
Purdue Northwestern
UCLA Texas
Washington Virginia
Duke BC
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