Boston College Football Releases 2011 Preseason Depth Chart
by Brian Favat on Aug 1, 2011 8:00 AM EDT
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The school recently released the 2011 Football Media Guide. Browsing through the guide, we get our first glimpse at the 2011 Preseason Depth Chart. After comparing the preseason depth chart to the last published 2010 depth chart for the Virginia game, here is a position by position delta:
Wide Receivers and Tight Ends. With Clyde Lee academically ineligible for the season, Alex Amidon slots in as the seconds string wide out behind a hopefully healthy Colin Larmond Jr. Johnathan Coleman drops out of the two deep behind Momah, Larmond, Swigert and Amidon. With both Chris Pantale and Lars Anderson back, there's no change to the depth chart at TE.
Offensive Line. There are obviously a lot of question marks around this year's offensive line -- including who will replace Anthony Castonzo at LT -- but a quick glance at the first string line doesn't show too too many changes. The Eagles are going from a line of Castonzo-Richman-Spinney-Claiborne-Cleary to one that features Wetzel-Richman-Spinney-White-Cleary. Richman, Spinney and Cleary return, while John Wetzel replaces Castonzo at LT and Ian White replaces Thomas Claiborne at RG. Consistency was a big problem for the line last year so I'm glad to see Richman, Spinney and Cleary returning to where they left off.
Quarterback. This one was a bit of a surprise for me. We've gone from a depth chart that read Chase Rettig and Mike Marscovetra to Chase Rettig and Dave Shinskie OR Josh Bordner. What happened to Marsco? It's not that I think Marsco is head and shoulders above Shinskie or Bordner, but it is an unexpected drop off when you go from second string to fourth string. This also means we are one injured QB away (knock wood) from seeing a possible return to the field for Shinskie.
Running Back and Fullback. No change at running back, with Montel Harris the 1 and Andre Williams the 2. I'm interested in seeing how Rogers plans on using our fullbacks. Lars Anderson and Mike Naples replace outgoing seniors James McCluskey and Codi Boek.
Defensive Line. Both DE Max Holloway and LT Kaleb Ramsey return as starters, while Dillon Quinn replaces Damik Scafe at RT and Kasim Edebali replaces Brad Newman at DE. The 6-6 264 true freshman Mehdi Abdesmad cracks the two-deep as Holloway's backup, and I'm excited to see if Abdesmad can contribute straight away.
Linebackers. Both Kuechly and KPL are back, so the only change to the starters in the linebacking corps is either Steele Divitto or Nick Clancy replacing Mark Herzlich at SLB. Will Thompson moves from backing up Kuechly at MLB to backing up KPL at WLB. Despite having to replace Herzlich at SLB, this should again be a very strong unit for the Eagles in 2011.
Secondary. FS Okechukwu Okoroha and FC Donnie Fletcher are again starters, but there are changes at BC and SS. A little surprised to see Dominick LeGrande beat out Jim Noel for the starting SS position. Noel is now slotted behind true freshman Al Louis-Jean at starting BC. Much like Abdesmad, I'm excited to see ALJ take the field this fall.
Specialists. No change to the depth chart at either kicker or punter, natch. Luke Kuechly and Marscovetra were removed from backup snapper (Spinney for Kuechly) and holder (Quigley for Marsco) positions. The biggest change in the specialists is Bobby Swigert taking over primary kick return and punt return duties from Montel Harris (kickoffs) and Andre Williams (punts). Hopefully Swigert can provide a spark in the return game this season, as both BC's kick and punt returns ranked in the bottom sixth in the country last season.
Full depth chart after the jump.
Offense
WR Ifeanyi Momah 6-6 229 Sr.
Bobby Swigert 6-1 184 So.
WR Colin Larmond Jr. 6-3 202 Jr.
Alex Amidon 5-11 185 So.
LT John Wetzel 6-8 302 So.
Aaron Kramer 6-7 296 R-Fr.
LG Nathan Richman 6-6 298 Sr.
Bobby Vardaro 6-5 301 R-Fr.
C Mark Spinney 6-4 282 Sr.
Andy Gallik 6-3 284 R-Fr.
RG Ian White 6-5 298 So.
Harris Williams 6-4 298 R-Fr.
RT Emmett Cleary 6-7 303 Jr.
Seth Betancourt 6-6 304 R-Fr.
TE Chris Pantale 6-6 251 Jr.
Lars Anderson 6-3 236 Sr.
QB Chase Rettig 6-3 212 So.
Dave Shinskie 6-4 220 Jr. OR Josh Bordner 6-4 224 R-Fr.
RB Montel Harris 5-10 207 Sr.
Andre Williams 6-0 222 So.
FB Lars Anderson 6-3 236 Sr.
Mike Naples 6-4 240 So.
Defense
DE Max Holloway 6-2 253 Jr.
Mehdi Abdesmad 6-6 264 Fr.
LT Kaleb Ramsey 6-3 302 Sr.
Dominic Appiah 6-5 286 R-Fr.
RT Dillon Quinn 6-6 292 So.
Conor O'Neal 6-3 299 Jr.
DE Kasim Edebali 6-2 249 So.
Dan Williams 6-3 250 Sr.
SLB Steele Divitto 6-3 225 So. OR Nick Clancy 6-3 235 Jr.
Andre Lawrence 6-1 224 So.
MLB Luke Kuechly 6-3 237 Jr.
Jake Sinkovec 6-4 234 So.
WLB Kevin Pierre-Louis 6-1 212 So.
Will Thompson 6-1 236 Sr.
SS Dominick LeGrande 6-3 211 Sr.
Dominique Williams 6-0 209 R-Fr.
FS Okechukwu Okoroha 6-1 205 Jr.
Sean Sylvia 6-0 196 R-Fr.
FC Donnie Fletcher 6-1 195 Sr.
Al Louis-Jean 6-2 183 Fr.
BC C.J. Jones 5-11 178 So.
Jim Noel 6-4 185 Jr.
Specialists
K Nate Freese 6-0 181 So.
Ryan Quigley 6-3 188 Sr.
P Ryan Quigley 6-3 188 Sr.
Gerald Levano 6-2 210 Jr.
LS Sean Flaherty 6-2 220 Jr.
Mark Spinney 6-4 282 Sr.
H Gerald Levano 6-2 210 Jr.
Ryan Quigley 6-3 188 Sr.
PR Bobby Swigert 6-1 184 So.
Montel Harris 5-10 207 Sr.
KR Bobby Swigert 6-1 184 So.
Alex Amidon 5-11 185 So.
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Forgive me
But what exactly do the FC and BC mean for our cornerbacks? I’ve probably heard before but am completely drawing a blank on this one.
Corners
FC = field corner (wide side)
BC = boundary corner (short side)
The two-deep is mostly unsurprising but I am very disappointed about LeGrande over Noel. The defense took a clear step up when Noel took over for LeGrande last year, and I’m not sure why we’re not sticking with it.
Thanks
Appreciate the clarification. It’d be interesting to take a look at who’s played which positions over the years and see what is valued at one position over the other (FC- run support, BC – pure coverage ability, could be vice-versa).
I wouldn't read too much into it
I am fairly confident Noel will be spending most of the season as the starting SS. Not basing this prediction on anything other than I was always under the impression that the whole Noel playing corner was just a “let’s give him some experience there in case other CBs get injured.” It’s not like we’re terribly deep there and he’d be a good option if we go up against a tall WR
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Legrande over Noel
Legrande is clearly the better SS here. More size, speed and experience. Only off the field issues hold him back. Once he was suspended, it went down hill. He will be the better choice at SS and will hold that position this year. This is the year that counts for him to catch eyes at the next level.
Tahj Kimble- where art thou
also is this a nightmare? Possibility of Shinskie seeing the field again… expect the boo birds to come out.
Shinskie
I would much rather see Shinskie take over as #2 than Marsco. I am glad to see Marsco drop and Bordner rises a bit. Marsco was not a capable ACC QB. Sorry to say, but true. Shinksie did win a few games and can play decently (not always, but sometimes)
I see, nicely, that Suntrup in on the roster. He will certainly be red-shirted.
Still, we now have 6 QB on the roster. — 2 prized recruits (rettig and suntrup) and 4 guys (Shin, Marso, Bordner, and Cranmore) who had no other FBS offers.
Marsco was also a receiver in high school…maybe he can switch positions.
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Marsco can be the new Billy Flutie. Fake FG TD passes, anyone?
Though he’s no longer listed as the backup holder. Tear.
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2004 Continental Tire
Just a reminder of the importance of the holder. In 2004, Ryan Ohliger was the kicker against North Carolina. The final score was 37-24. Paul Peterson had broken his leg and then was replaced by Matt Ryan. T.O. called a fake field goal. I believe that the holder flipped it to Ohliger (who had a crazy history at BC) and he ran it in from 21 yds. The article on the game states that N.C. was ready for a fake f.g. pass. The run took them by surprise. Levano is a punter on the roster. The point is that it appears that the “trick play” is not in the play book. Remember ND was shocked by Michigan St. in overtime. Marsco may not be the one but as you state there was a big one from Flutie to McMichael. You have to have a “big playbook” and not the one that the kids at Thanksgiving share at the kiddie table.
by JBQ on Aug 1, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with Waterwater (Gulp)
It scares the hell out of me that Shinskie could possibly see the field again in an everyday starting role, but as a backup? I can’t complain. He makes a lot of boneheaded plays, but he at least knows the offense (Pending Rogers doesn’t implement an entirely new system). How many teams can say they have a backup with meaningful game experience?
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Anderson and Naples
Aren’t Lars and Mike listed as flankers, not as fullbacks (on the depth chart they are under F, not FB)?
Anderson played some FB two seasons ago. ANderson at FB makes for an interesting backfield if he can block as a FB and also be a good receiver. We have not had a true outlet/safety valve FB in a few years. The dump off to the FB/RB was a Matt Ryan favorite. The more threats our offense has, the better to keep the defense off balanced.
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Not sure
The 2010 depth chart lists McCluskey and Boek as FBs. This year, Anderson and Naples are listed as F in the same spot on the depth chart.
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2009
I see your point. The 2011Media Guide calls the position “F” not “FB.” (BUT BCI lists is as FB???) So maybe BC will have no FB and just use an F — a flanker. Interesting development too. Kind of a double TE set. Both Lars and Naples are listed in Media guide as TEs, not FBs too. But just how credible is the media guide for an accurate Depth Chart?
Lars did played some FB two seasons ago, per a report (I can’t remember myself). Here is a blurb about LA in the 2009 season:
“Last season, Anderson started 10 games at fullback and appeared in all 13 games for the Eagles. He finished fifth on the team with eight receptions for 102 yards and a touchdown. Anderson believes that his role on the Eagles offensive will develop into more opportunities for him to make big-time plays. "I had a lot of up’s and down’s last year," he said. "I played more of a fullback role which I didn’t mind, but so far this spring I think I’m proving myself as more of a receiver."
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Serious question
Wouldn’t a depth chart list a Flanker closer to the wide receivers or tight ends? Also, isn’t a flanker just a WR lined up a few feet behind the line of scrimmage? Seems incredibly nuanced for a preseason depth chart — I thought in general there’s no distinction between a slot WR, flanker, split end, etc. on a depth chart, but I could be wrong.
I listed the position as “FB” and not “F” because I used the 2010 depth chart as the basis for the delta comparison.
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That would make sense, putting the flanker closer to the WR or TE spot. I HAVE heard of the H-back position being called the F-back before, so maybe that’s what they’re trying to do with this?
We may just have to wait until somebody sees how they are lining up to know for sure, but I have a feeling that listing them as an “F” instead of the traditional “FB” could be intentional, regardless of what it is standing for in this instance
BC also only has one player listed as a FB on this year’s roster — sophomore FB Danny Traeger.
Makes me think Anderson and Naples are listed here as fullbacks, not flankers. Again, not positive and if a football X’s and O’s guy wants to correct us here, please speak up.
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goal line offense
You absolutely cannot have a goal line offense without a fullback. When McCluskey set up in an “I” in front of Harris, he made some very good blocks at the stripe. (lots of injuries). Remember the Super Bowl when Raji set up at fullback just like the Fridge? If you don’t have an “eye” in your playbook, then you will look like a fool at the goal line. Last year, BC ranked as one of the worst in red zone performance. When they got inside the ten, it was even worse. One of the better games with ND under T.O., the Eagles lost when one of the ND lineman made a fantastic play at the goal line as time expired. T.O. believed in a blocking back in goal line situations. In that instance, the left side tackle did not hold his block and the ND guy just “swam” past him. Actually, the fullback had opened a hole to which the BC back could not get to. The goal line offense is probably a major concern.
by JBQ on Aug 1, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Dillon Quinn
I expect to see some big things out of him this season. The duo of Ramsey and Quinn should be extremely good
Big Gulps, huh?
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@WarrenLent
agreed
The D-Line is looking decent. I am also hoping that with the better speed at DEs, we might be able to finally get presure on the QB.
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18 Sacks in 2009... 20 in 2010
I expect to see another rise from 20 that considering Holloway led with 4 last year and Ramsey can get into the backfield well too… Kasim’s side will determine whether or not BC gets over the 20 sack total
Big Gulps, huh?
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I've been waiting
for anyone to put pressure on the QB like Kiwi did. Or even 75% of what Kiwi was.
It was a lot of fun seeing Kiwi coming off the edge on 3rd and long…Hoping Holloway, Edebali, Abdesmad, etc. emerges as that pass rushing specialist.
Uncle Dave
Disclaimer: I am not advocating Shinskie playing in anything other than emergency situations.
That being said, he seems to have always shown flashes in the summer and against weaker competition. I’d be curious to see how he handles himself now that he has another year under his belt and a competent (hopefully) OC calling plays. I mean ultimately I don’t think you can really fault a QB for getting flustered with a Bud Foster or Butch Davis led defense dropping the hammer on you when your OC is basically posting his plays on the jumbotron.
Once again, I’d rather not see him on the field too often except maybe in mop up duty or an occasional second quarter series; just playing a little what if for poor ole Uncle Dave. Like him or not, but he has taken some licks for this team and it’d be nice to see him reshape his legacy during his last two years to a capable back up.
Jonathan Coleman
Pretty disappointed in this guy…he had 3 receptions for 98 yards in the opener last year (at this point, im thinking he could replace Larmond nicely) and then he has 11 receptions for 162 yards the rest of the season. according to the depth chart, it looks like he has dropped off some more this summer…
Coleman was only on the two-deep last year because of the injury to Larmond Jr. Not reading too much on him not making the two-deep. I think this is more a reflection of Swigert and Amidon’s play last year than it is on Coleman.
Hopefully he’ll get some PT this year.
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