SB Nation Conference Re-Draft Results Through Eight Rounds
by Brian Favat on Jul 12, 2011 3:32 PM EDT
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Eight rounds of the SB Nation Conference Re-Draft are in the books. Well, 8.17 to be exact. Here's how the conferences are shaping up after eight+ rounds:
Round 8+
-- The Cult Of Les Miles: South Carolina
-- The House of a Thousand Sanctions: BYU
-- Conference TMZ: Utah
-- The Empire: Arizona State
-- Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants: TCU
-- Twelve Pack (that be us): Virginia, Boston College
Complete draft results in table format:
| BCI | BHGP | TSK | BECB | HoS | RCR | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 1. Texas | 2. Florida | 3. Alabama | 4. Ohio State | 5. USC | 6. LSU |
| 2 | 12. Georgia | 11. Penn State | 10. Oklahoma | 9. Florida State | 8. Notre Dame | 7. Michigan |
| 3 | 13. U.C.L.A. | 14. Virginia Tech | 15. Nebraska | 16. Louisville | 17. Oregon | 18. North Carolina |
| 4 | 24. Wisconsin | 23. Miami (Fla.) | 22. Texas A&M | 21. Michigan State | 20. Tennessee | 19. Stanford |
| 5 | 25. Washington | 26. Auburn | 27. Arizona | 28. West Virginia | 29. Syracuse | 30. Arkansas |
| 6 | 36. Duke | 35. Kansas | 34. California | 33. Maryland | 32. Kentucky | 31. Iowa |
| 7 | 37. Clemson | 38. Illinois | 39. UConn | 40. Missouri | 41. Pittsburgh | 42. Oklahoma State |
| 8 | 48. Virginia | 47. TCU | 46. Arizona State | 45. Utah | 44. BYU | 43. South Carolina |
| 9 | 49. Boston College |
Comissioners and Conference names: BCI: Twelve Pack; BHGP: Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants; TSK: The Empire (working title); BECB: Conference TMZ; HoS: House of a Thousand Sanctions; RCR: The Cult Of Les Miles.
Updated USA Today rendering of the Twelve Pack's geographic encircling strategy above.
After watching other conference commissioners make a run at former Mountain West Conference programs BYU, Utah and TCU, the Twelve Pack picked up another pair of strong ACC programs. Virginia was the highest earner left on the board, ranked 26th nationally in revenues just a few years ago. The Cavaliers also have an excellent brand, strong academics and kill it in the non-revs. Between Duke and Virginia, all your men's lax titles are belong to us.
We actually almost nabbed UVa at the 6/7, so we were thrilled when the 'Hoos came back around to us at 8/9.
Boston College gives the Twelve Pack a presence in Boston and greater New England, the largest TV market left on the board that doesn't double back over the conference's existing footprint (i.e. Northwestern, SMU). And no, Rutgers does not equal the NYC market.
The Eagles also give the Twelve Pack another like-minded academic school to go along with Duke, Virginia and UCLA. We continue our academic dominance of this draft by picking up two more schools ranked in the top 35 in the country according to USN&WR -- Duke 9, UCLA 25, Virginia 25, Boston College 31, Washington 41, Texas 45, Wisconsin 45, Georgia 56 and Clemson 64.
Plus if GDF can't sell out Alumni Stadium every game with Texas, Georgia, UCLA, Wisconsin, Washington and Clemson coming to the Heights every year, god help us all.
Head on over to Streaking The Lawn and welcome the newest member of the Twelve Pack.
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Mountain Time
That mountain time zone is looking pretty lonely right now…no idea who will be around in round 10, but colorado would be nice.
And that mid-atlantic region is looking really nice!
YES!
If you guys draft Colorado, you will officially have the best three mascots in college sports -
Uga (the absolute best), Bevo, and Ralphie.
by scj on Jul 12, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You mean...
…that creepy looking Clemson tiger? His eyes look like he’s possessed a la Linda Blair in the Exorcist. As far as ACC mascots go, I’ll definitely give you Eight Ball over Testudo, which looks like a giant turd with arms and legs.
You mean this thing? Haha
I don’t think this is Baldwin, just thought it was funny
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What in god’s name is that abomination?
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by Brian Favat on Jul 13, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
National Geographic photo
Guy claims its the BC mascot Baldwin. I think not. Just thought it was funny
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Mountain Time
The Mountain Time Zone question was posed to the group, but in the end we decided to take the two best available programs that fit our draft strategy rather than taking lesser programs just to gain a foothold in the time zone.
Also we were looking at Arizona State but the Sun Devils were taken by the Empire two picks earlier. We did have some reservations about taking ASU though, too.
There are really only a handful of BCS-calibre programs in the time zone to begin with — Arizona State, Arizona, Colorado, Utah.
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Figure you guys might go west…or midwest…with your next two picks? U Dub and UCLA are looking a little lonley out there.
Maybe an Oregon State? Sub-par academics, but solid athletics. Or a Gonzaga? Academics are there, and you’d really have the entirety of the state of Washington. Colorado might be a good pick…large public institution with a lot of unique programs. Awesome mascot.
Maybe pick Johnny’s with the last pick…a curveball of sorts that gets you the New York market.
Geography
Geography is a factor, but we were told to ignore picking based largely on geography because what you end up with is a bunch of BCS conferences that look eerily similar to what we already have.
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True when you look at the map
UW and UCLA stick out like a sore thumb(s). BYU is a steal at 44, has certain drawbacks but it’s got a large footprint.
by ev on Jul 12, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, it’s probably no coincidence that there isn’t a BCS conference centered in the Mountain Time Zone (?)
At least Washington and UCLA are paired with one another. There are plenty of other geo-outliers in this draft, including:
UConn in The Empire (Bama is the closest)
Utah in Conference TMZ (Missouri is the closest)
Stanford in the Cult of Les Miles (Oklahoma State / Iowa the closest)
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Kind of a historical artifact, though
I mean, if you took current good schools and went back to the small conference era, you could make something pretty good from Boise, BYU, Utah, Colorado, Arizona, Arizona State, and some filler (Air Force is probably the next-best there).
The MWC takes wishes to argue that point
Not saying they would win, but they want to argue it. UCLA and UW are huge public schools, but they are pretty far apart from each other let alone the rest of the pack. Interesting that’s all.
by ev on Jul 12, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
UCLA-Washington
Our UCLA reps are perfectly happy paired with Washington. That’s two of the best Pac-10 programs historically as they pointed out.
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In other words, the UCLA guys helped pick Washington well before a say, Cal
“Out in the West the rivalry is going to between UCLA and Washington.” — Bruins Nation
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Granted but that doesn't change my point.
They stick out in a east coast centric conference. Texas being a great counterweight, but stick out none the less. If I were the UCLA rep, I would have picked UW too. In fact I pointed out the value to UW on a few boards prior to you picking them, they would have made a good pairing in a couple of them.
by ev on Jul 12, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Having geographic outliers is an incredibly minor consideration IMO
We have some of the best destinations in some of the largest TV markets in the country — Seattle, LA, Boston, Austin, Athens, Clemson, Madison and Charlottesville. Durham, well … we’ll party in nearby Chapel Hill.
With a draft like this, you have to go with the best available programs, not settle for average programs in the middle of the country simply to bridge geographic gaps.
Right now, UCLA and UW may stick out geographically. But I’d argue that’s a much better conference configuration than picking a below average program that doesn’t fit our draft strategy, just to bridge a geographic gap between Austin and Westwood or Seattle and Madison.
Plus there just isn’t a whole lot of teams from the Mountain states that are worth taking over UVa and BC at this point IMO. There are five BCS AQ programs in the Mountain time zone and four were off the board by the time our pick came around at 8/9. Only Colorado is left.
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Again granted
You are defending the picks when I wasn’t saying they were bad. Just pointing out they stick out there geographically which we both know wasn’t suppose to be a consideration. Both were great picks at their spots.
by ev on Jul 12, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Besides, the Longhorns weren’t real high on selecting Colorado in that spot. Something about their AD being bankrupt and their best varsity sports being hackey sack and pot smoking, or something. :)
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Since geography isn't supposed to be a determining factor
then taking the 2 best schools for our profile worked out this way. Part of it comes down to the relative density of population and universities across the map. Look at the way the Pac-10 is really the only big time conference in the Pacific Time Zone, while the east coast has SEC, ACC, Big East, and some overlap of others. The map makes things look a bit more skewed then they really are, since the 12-Pack goes across all of those conferences.
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We are what we are?
Admittedly, I’ve not been following the redraft closely, but picking BC 9th smacks of TOB ‘we are what we are’-ism. Put yourselves on notice!
Change of perspective
You are looking at it the wrong way. We nearly pulled the trigger on Virginia and BC with picks 36/37, but held off when we saw that there was a run on the basketball royalty (so we nabbed Duke) and we also wanted to get into South Carolina (taking Clemson over South Carolina).
The hope was always that UVa and BC would fall to us back at 8/9. It’s not “we are what we are.” More like we got a steal with picks 48/49.
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Value picks of the century
Remove TCU and Utah from the 8th round (both were terrible reaches given what was on the board), and there was another tier drop-off after BC and UVA.
If you’ve got two consecutive picks and are at no risk of someone taking your 2nd pick, then you couldn’t take BC first to make them a higher round pick, then take the Hoos?
The order isn't important
The order of selections became meaningless after Louisville was taken with pick 16. I think we all realize that BC is a better program than roughly half the ones drafted after round 5.
Besides, we got the programs we wanted.
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The order only matters to incredibly insecure athletics programs like UConn:
“BC people still have it in there minds that were inferior to them. They can’t handle the competition.”
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Johns Hopkins next logical selection
Need to make sure we have a stranglehold on lacrosse.
by virtue of having 'Cuse
Sparky has a stranglehold on lacrosse. No others are needed :) (though ND is pretty good, too).
It’s not like the Twelve Pack has the last two men’s lacrosse National Champions or anything …
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The best of the rest
Is it going to be Indiana, Minnesota, Colorado? These next couple rounds may be scraping the bottom of the barrel for like-minded schools. Perhaps academies?
If available this is who I would give thought to:
1. Colorado – good athletic program in the past that could be back on the rise with new money intake
2. Minnesota – brand new stadium, good rival for Wisconsin, and good heritage
3. Indiana – Bloomington is the shit
4. Boise State/Fresno State – Good small teams, that are really starting to make push upwards. Fresno has a baseball national championship, and Boise has won like two Fiesta Bowl trophy things I think
Don't give up, don't ever give up ~ Jim Valvano
Colorado
Is off the board, now. They were taken by BHGP with the next pick.
For discussion:
- ACC (3) — Georgia Tech, N.C. State, Wake Forest
- Big 12 (4) — Baylor, Iowa State, Kansas State, Texas Tech
- Big East (3) — Cincinnati, Rutgers, South Florida,
- Big Ten (4) — Indiana, Minnesota, Northwestern, Purdue
- Pac 12 (2) — Oregon State, Washington State
- SEC (3) — Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Vanderbilt
- Notable Non-AQs — Army, Boise State, East Carolina, Memphis, Navy
There will be nine picks until the wrap around. There are 19 BCS properties left and a few notable non-AQs. It’s not quite bottom of the barrel, but it will be close. I think Boise, Ole Miss, Oregon State, Indiana, Texas Tech, Georgia Tech, and South Florida come off the board.
Anything from the ACC, Pac 12 or Big 12 is poison at this point due to academics or media overlap. There should be 1 or 2 Big 10 teams left and maybe a few other value picks. Vandy is a sleeper pick— good non-revs, decent basketball, plus Nashville.
I agree about the ACC
We’ve already taken four pretty good ACC programs and the ones that are left double back over areas of the country already claimed (Georgia Tech – Georgia, N.C. State or Wake Forest – Duke).
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by Brian Favat on Jul 14, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Though these programs are more valuable to other conferences so hopefully they are scooped up by another conference in one of the next 9 picks.
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by Brian Favat on Jul 14, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I think G-Tech will certainly eat up a pick. Wake and NC State are probably reaches at this point. Of course, I’ve given up guessing what criteria several of these conferences are using at this point.
You and me both.
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by Brian Favat on Jul 14, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Finally getting in on the fun...
This sort of thing has seriously been beyond my level of comprehension the last few weeks (being seriously sick is fun…). Anywhoo: How the hell did you not draft Cal over BC? I mean, I get the whole hockey thing, but seriously? Cal you get decent football, swimming, diving, baseball, ROWING CREW. You take Cal and Princeton and you’ve pretty much conquered the entire Olympic sports base because now you have Duke, Washington, Wisco, Virginia, and yeah, BC is important for Hockey… but c’mon guys, seriously?
Take Cal next chance you get, probably followed by Princeton, because again, across all sports + academics it averages out really well.
Not like the Utah Jazz... it's about REAL jazz. Go Dawgs!
Gotcha. Just caught that. And yeah, I would take Duke over Cal, as much as it pains me to say it.
Not like the Utah Jazz... it's about REAL jazz. Go Dawgs!
Actually, we took Duke after Cal. It’s a snake draft format, so Duke was selected 36th. Cal was 34th.
The fifth round was tough because we had both Cal and Kansas high on our draft board, but after they went, and with the run on basketball schools that round, Duke seemed like a good get at 36 (despite its football shortcomings).
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Yeah… and honestly, being from the Pac-10… Cal has been mediocre at football aside from Tedford. I mean, it’s the olympic sports that make Cal amazing in terms of sports.
Next round… shockingly I’m leaning toward Colorado. It might be a good get at least at this point.
Not like the Utah Jazz... it's about REAL jazz. Go Dawgs!
Yeah, we debated Virginia, BC or Colorado at the 8/9, but went with Virginia for the strong non-revs and good academics, and BC for the strong football/hoops balance and for a presence in the Northeast. Colorado came off the board with the next pick.
Here are the round 9 updates:
49. Boston College
50. Colorado
51. Oregon State
52. Boise State
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Take Princeton next. Good academics, good athletics, good location, pretty strong alumni base.
Not like the Utah Jazz... it's about REAL jazz. Go Dawgs!
Our team is too good for schools like BSU and OSU anyway.
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by jazzaholic17 on Jul 15, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree with that, but Princeton? Shouldn’t they at least be good at football in the Ivy League? #justsayin
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