SB Nation Conference Re-Draft: Rounds 1 and 2 Results
by Brian Favat on Jun 20, 2011 11:21 AM EDT
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PrintThe first two rounds of the SB Nation Conference Re-Draft are now complete with results posted over at Cowboys Ride For Free. Head on over to Cowboys RFF for the complete list of results.
Your fearless commissioner drafted Texas with the #1 overall pick in the draft, and followed that up by selecting the University of Georgia with pick number 12. Here is how the conferences look after two rounds:
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Black Heart Gold Pants: Florida, Penn State
Team Speed Kills: Alabama, Oklahoma
Big East Coast Bias: Ohio State, Florida State
House of Sparky: USC, Notre Dame
Red Cup Rebellion: LSU, Michigan
We have the first pick in the third round, so who should we take? Programs such as Auburn, Wisconsin, Iowa, Texas A&M, Tennessee, Oregon, UCLA, Michigan State and Nebraska (and of course, Boston College) are all still on the board.
Now that the results are in, we want to get your take on the first two rounds. How would you grade our first two selections in the draft? Keep in mind we have a very defined strategy as to how we want to build this conference, but don't want to necessarily let the cat out of the bag as the draft is still in progress.
As a note, there will be a slight format change for the rest of the draft. From now on we will just be picking at will and reporting the results as often as we want. The method of drafting proved to be much quicker and easier than we anticipated so we should be able to get through this whole thing in the next few weeks. So we'll be making our third round selection most likely by end of day today.
Finally, be sure to head on over to Burnt Orange Nation, Barking Carnival and Dawg Sports and welcome the newest member of the "Conference to be named Shortly" Conference.
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So Far So Good
Texas is a given at #1, and I like the possibility of Bulldogs and Longhorns in the same conference. Two rapid fan bases, that put a lot of time and money into their programs. I really like Georgia as a 2nd round pick over some of these other schools. Now trying to fit a 3rd school into this mold who would I shoot for? My vote? UCLA.
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Wisconsin
I think you have to go Wisconsin next. The Badgers have a quality athletic program. The football team was in the Rose Bowl last year, and if Russell Wilson decides to transfer to Madison this year, they’ll be Big 10 favorites again. The basketball team is respectable — Bo Ryan is a great coach and the the Kohl Center is an unbelievable venue. The hockey team leads the nation in attendance. Perhaps most importantly, UW has an incredibly passionate fanbase stretching bast the Wisconsin border. You’ve already drafted a SEC team and a Big 12 team – expand north and add the Badgers.
You take Texas A&M
Hands down. No question. You put all you eggs in one basket with getting Texas-Austin, now you need to remember the one game that truly matters each year. A conference is nothing with rivalries, and this is one of the best and biggest in the country. This isn’t just a football rivalry, this is a our janitor can spit shine better than yours rivalry. You should be able to Wisconsin/UCLA to start the 4th round, or if they are not available, I would head back east and grab either Clemson, West Virginia, UNC, and non east residing Oregon.
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UCLA or UNC.
Both have good athletics programs and academics and a ton of brand recognition. Oviously the basketball teams are the bell-cows. I think both would fit in well with Texas and UGA in creating a conference with teams with a lot of brand identity.
Agreed
Securing a Basketball powerhouse with a respectable football program should be the goal for round three. UCLA and UNC are the best options, but the more balanced option of Michigan State is also still available. Kentucky and L’Ville could also be considered, but I don’t see them as being nearly as complete as UNC and UCLA
Louisville shouldn't be in the discussion here
If you want a great basketball program with a passable football team, your choices are UCLA, UNC, and Kentucky, probably in that order.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 20, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd put UNC before UCLA
The Los Angles crowd can be fickle. Especially when competing with the pro sports in the area. Tarheels, on the other hand, are pretty maniacal and they don’t have any pro sports to compete with.
I agree that the two are comparable
UCLA has the better history, but UNC wins out on fan base. Also, I’d rather travel to Chapel Hill than Los Angeles (and I’m not just saying that—I chose Chapel Hill over the LA basin for my PhD program). UK is #3, and I don’t think anyone else can be considered (at least as a basketball option—Nebraska, Tennessee and Texas A&M are also fine choices overall. perhaps Oregon with all that Nike money).
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 20, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Or Oklahoma State will all of T. Boone’s cash money.
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Rather travel to Chapel Hill than Los Angeles?
Wait, what?
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Maybe, maybe I could see the argument for UNC’s campus over UCLA’s, or Chapel Hill over Westwood, but traveling to North Carolina over Southern California … no way.
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I like to avoid major metro areas, as a general rule
although my last two years in Boston weren’t too painful. Also, I like college towns.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 20, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not as convinced that UNC wins out in fan base.
Sure, they may have better attendance at home games (at least in bball), but UCLA has a ton of fans and great name recognition. Plus you have the benefit of all of the championships in non-revenue sports (don’t they have 100 now or something)?
Something absurd like 70+ men’s titles and 30+ women’s titles. Go Bruins men’s volleyball and softball!
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UNC has more fans, and it isn't even close
North Carolina is consistently top 10 in licensing sales. UCLA is around #30.
Michael Jordan created an entire generation of bandwagon UNC-CH fans, and John Wooden is not walking through that door.
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by GwinnettGamecock on Jun 21, 2011 3:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Louisville will be a late round pick. There are plenty of basketball-first schools that will still be on the board in later rounds — Kansas, Kentucky, Indiana — that add more value than the ’Ville.
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UNC is interesting.
You’d have the country’s two oldest state universities. You’d have three outstanding college towns — perhaps the three best college towns in the country. (As long as you understand picking UVA fourth would be the next logical step.).
I know I'm a homer
But Tennessee should at least be in the discussion just for the tradition, historical success, and fan following of the football team. The current situation is not entirely unlike Michigan, who went #7 overall.
I can definitely understand wanting to go A&M for rivalry’s sake (or Auburn, I suppose) or take a basketball blue-blood, but I have trouble seeing teams like Iowa and Michigan State as legitimate options here. They might still be around at the end of round four.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 20, 2011 1:45 PM EDT reply actions
Interesting concept.
If I were to guess your strategy, it would be to take the highest grossing AD on the board. UGA has a crazy good local TV deal. If the goal here is to create the best all around conference, how has no one mentioned Stanford? They only win the Directors Cup every single year (though Florida is right there with them). I think it’s fairly obvious that most of us are looking at this in a football/basketball centric way. I like Nebraska a lot for the next pick, and if not them I like Auburn.
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Because no one cares about women's crew?
The Director’s Cup is a joke. Stanford brings nothing to the table aside from academics. You can wait til the end and get Northwestern or Vandy if you want that sort of thing, or just grab a few decent publics and let someone else play Faux Delany.
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by GwinnettGamecock on Jun 21, 2011 3:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Best Picks
Brian, I honestly think that you had the best two rounds out of anyone with Florida-Penn St and USC-ND as other good picks.
For the third round, I’m feeling Wisconsin, Texas A&M, or UCLA. I think UCLA should definitely be picked over UNC (when good, UCLA controls the LA market over USC). I’m going with UCLA…
Thanks, D-Murph
It’s been a really interesting exercise. Now let’s hope we can nab BC in one of the later rounds so we don’t have to get paired with Notre Dame, UConn or Rutgers …
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Plus, we seem to be taking this exercise a little more seriously than other commissioners. Just sayin’ …
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Because dominating women’s tennis and women’s water polo isn’t high on our list of priorities?
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by Brian Favat on Jun 20, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I guess academics and championships are for suckers
I was of the understanding that this conference was open to all sports. Besides, football, basketball, and baseball seem to be off to a good start with UT/UGA.
Stanford has a $5B athletic department endowment
yes that was a “B”. Second most NCAA championships in the nation and within 5 year will have the most. I seem to remember them dominating the ACC football champ just a few months ago.
by ev on Jun 20, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Limited upside
The Cardinal crushes Virginia Tech to win the Orange Bowl last year, finishes the year 12-1, ends the season ranked 4th in both major polls final rankings … yet averaged 40,042 fans / game for seven home games last season. Stanford Stadium seats 50k.
Granted Stanford has great academics and non-revenue sports, but IMO there is limited upside in taking on a small-ish private school that can’t even fill its modest 50k seat stadium during one of the greatest seasons in the last 70 years.
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by Brian Favat on Jun 20, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’m not suggesting that Stanford isn’t high on our board, simply disputing the fact that Stanford should be #1 and not even up for discussion.
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We did. Will have a post up tomorrow profiling our pick.
Virginia Tech and Louisville went in round 3, which I can’t really explain.
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Yes. Only logical reasoning is one of the co-writers over at BECB is a Louisville fan (and possibly an alum).
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Team Speed Kills is obviously creating a football powerhouse conference with Alabama, Oklahoma and Nebraska. Pretty much the SEC II because that is one crappy hoops conference at the top.
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Tennessee, Arkansas, Auburn and Clemson are standing by …
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Good Lord. If you have mediocre fan support and TV viewers, dominate no home market, and
have zero sustained success in football, then yes, minor sport championships are for suckers.
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by GwinnettGamecock on Jun 21, 2011 3:43 AM EDT up reply actions
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