Villanova's Potential Move To Big East Football Reinforces BC's Decision To Leave
On Monday, Villanova University -- which was set to vote this week to decide whether to make the jump to Big East football and Division I -- decided to postpone the vote to the "near future." The board of trustees was scheduled to vote on the issue today.
The hang up appears to be Villanova's decision to use PPL Park in Chester, Pa. as its home stadium:
"The chief sticking point, according to the source, is Villanova's plan to use PPL Park in Chester, the 18,500-seat home of the Philadelphia Union, as its primary venue.
PPL Park would be the smallest stadium in the league. Potential plans to increase the seating capacity to roughly 30,000 have not convinced all the Big East schools to support the move. However, some Big East football members are in favor, and it still could be approved, the source said."
Forgive the rest of the Big East for being only lukewarm to the idea of adding a football program playing in a stadium smaller than 119 other Division I-A college football programs. Not to mention the fact that Villanova's campus is some 18 miles from PPL Park in Chester. Because the Big East needs to give the rest of college football even more things to make fun of?
Now if I'm a Union season ticket holder, why would I want my pristine MLS soccer stadium expanded to 30,000? The second year MLS team seems to have a good thing going with a current stadium capacity of 18.5. Expanding the stadium to 30k would take something away from the game experience the Union has created. Not to mention PPL Park sitting half-full in the fall the first time TCU, South Florida or Louisville make the trip up to Chester.
If I'm the Big East, am I that hard up for a tenth football playing member that I'm giving an open-door policy to a FCS football program that wants to play its home games in an 18,500-seat soccer stadium? The move makes even less sense when a school like Central Florida is practically knocking down the door to join in on the Big East football fun.
Finally, if I'm 'Nova, what makes me possibly think that I'm going to fill up PPL Park with 30,000 screaming Wildcat football fans on six to eight Saturdays every fall? They do realize that Pittsburgh, West Virginia and Syracuse aren't coming to town every Saturday, right? For every game against those "power" Big East teams, there will always be a home date against USF, Louisville, Cincinnati and TCU. No disrespect to those programs. They are just really, really far from Philadelphia.
Finally, this says nothing of the fact that non-conference opponents will laugh in 'Nova's face if they expect them to play at an 18,500-seat (or even an 30,000-seat) PPL Park. I'm sure Notre Dame is lining up to open up the Philadelphia market to play in PPL Park.
Seriously though. What about Villanova Big East football -- other than opening up the Philadelphia TV market for the Big East -- is attractive to the conference? I get the move from 'Nova's vantage point. They are desperately looking to shore up its Big East basketball investment.
But from the league's viewpoint, I don't get it. Like, at all. I understand the need for a tenth football program and the attractiveness of the Philadelphia TV market, but waiting on an FCS program to mature while playing in one of the smallest venues in the country reeks of desperation. Especially when there is an equally viable option already in Philadelphia (Temple ... granted, they've been down this road once before) and the largest public university in the country begging you to join in Central Florida. What about 10 football and 18 basketball-playing schools is any less attractive than 10 football / 17 basketball programs? If college football is the tail that wags the dog of collegiate athletics, why is Marinatto still running the conference as a basketball-first one?
For all the above-mentioned reasons, Villanova football is your reminder today that Boston College's move to the ACC was a really, really good decision.
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As a staunch Big East guy.....
I say: You’re right. But I think all hell is about to break loose and Pitt & Rutgirls are going to lead the chage.
Curious
“all hell is about to break loose” … ?
You mean, a possible Big East basketball / football split?
BC Interruption, SBN's Boston College Eagles blog
I went out to PPL Park last summer for a Union game, and it’s a beautiful stadium, with great sightlines and amenities…for soccer. MLS owners have intentionally moved out of NFL sized stadiums because 20k ppl in a 50k seat stadium rattle around in there and create ZERO atmosphere. (Don’t get me started on Kraft and the Revolution in Gillette). If tickets are too easy to find, then there’s no reason to buy season seats. It throws off the entire business model.
I’d hope that from the Union’s perspective, they’d make Villanova pay through the nose to wreck the dynamic they intentionally created in an appropriately sized venue. 18.5 works just fine for domestic American soccer.
by chicagofire1871 on Apr 11, 2011 10:13 PM EDT reply actions
Really, BC made a good move?
Had BC’s move may have made it a few more dollars, but it’s athletic program has become just about irrelevent in the ACC. They moved into a basketball league that consists of Duke, UNC and everyone else. No one in the ACC cares about BC basketball and how many BC games were on national TV this season? had they stayed in teh Big East, the basketball program would have been playing in teh best conference in teh country, gotten much more exposure in the biggest markets, and would have still been a player in college hoops. As for football, they probably would have been in at least one BCS game if not more and been in a conference with natural rivals where there is was an interest in them. BC has become a non-player in its own backyard. And for those who are still awaiting a Big East split – it ain’t happening anytime soon.
hooray for Villanova
Do you really believe that BC is welcomed with open arms in the old South? I spent four years in the Navy in Charleston and I would tell you no! They are that Catholic school in the North! The Civil War is still being fought not only in South Carolina but also in southern Misouri for that matter. When Jags took the team to two ACC championship games, the referees made it plain that BC had a lot to learn. On the first play from scrimmage in the first game, the BC black fullback was hit out of bounds and there was “no call”. The message was sent and BC better learn to “read between the lines”.
BC would have been...
…a mjor player if it stayed in the Big East. It’s basketball would have been better, it’s football would have been better, and interest in the program would have been better. When you think of the ACC, all you think of is Duke and UNC. They are the only ones anyone wants to watch.
How do you figure?
BC basketball would have been lost in the shuffle in a 16-team Big East. Plus if we were still in the Big East, Al Skinner would still be coach and we’d probably be struggling worse than we have the last few years.
BC has made the NCAAs in three of its first six years in the league. That’s more appearances than nearly half the Big East over the same span — St. Johns (1), Seton Hall (1), Cincinnati (1), USF (0), DePaul (0), Providence (0) and Rutgers (0).
We came within a bucket of winning the Tournament in our first year in the league.
I don’t see how playing in a tougher basketball conference (I’ll willingly admit this) would have made BC better in basketball. That’s completely backwards.
BC Interruption, SBN's Boston College Eagles blog
by Brian Favat on Apr 14, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
As for football ...
Even with two mediocre seasons the last two years, BC still has a higher winning pct. in the first five years in the ACC than the last five in the Big East. The money is (much) better. So is the stability when it comes to football.
Travel costs? South Florida, TCU, Louisville, Cincinnati, Marquette, DePaul, Notre Dame are just as far from Chestnut Hill as most ACC schools. Not to mention having to pay for another patsy football opponent to get a beatdown on the road.
So BC would have played in 1-2 BCS games over that same span … to what end? To get embarrassed on national TV like UConn did?
BC Interruption, SBN's Boston College Eagles blog
by Brian Favat on Apr 14, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions

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