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Boston College Football: Retire #12, #40 and #94 ASAP

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DL over at Heights and Lows recently took at the prospects of naming the Boston College basketball court and football field, coming to the conclusion that BC should eventually name the football field "Flutie Field."

"If GDF needs one more Hail Mary to distract everything he's bungled over the last few years, I would in no way, shape or form be surprised if he chose to take a specific route.

Flutie Field at Alumni Stadium. It's going to happen.

Flutie hasn't seen the field since last playing with the Patriots in 2005, and while he did some time with ESPN, it's much more likely to see him in the Plex playing pick-up these days. We are now a little less than three years away from the 30th anniversary of November 23, 1984 and the anniversary of Flutie's Heisman winning season. Flutie will be 52. It'll be the right time."

Has a nice ring to it, eh? Not bad. Not bad at all.

With Boston College LB Luke Kuechly winning the 2011 Dick Butkus Award as the nation's top linebacker, I was thinking along the same lines as H&L earlier this week. My thoughts turned to other ways for GDF to distract from fans intelligently questioning the litany of half-truths and excuses about the last few years of Eagles football.

I immediately jumped to this conclusion: Boston College should retire the #12, #40 and #94 jerseys, like, yesterday.

The football program has retired just two numbers in program history -- #22 (Doug Flutie) and #68 (Mike Ruth). Seven other former Eagles have received the honor of having their jerseys (without numbers) retired -- Art Donovan, Bill Flynn, Gene Goodreault, Mike Holovak, Charles O'Rourke, Tony Thurman and Louis Urban.

The problem as I see it is that it's been quite a few years since Flutie's Miracle in Miami and Ruth's 1985 Outland Trophy. Over 25 years, to be more precise. In fact, members of this year's senior class weren't even born the last time one of BC's football greats donned the maroon and gold.

What better way of connecting the past to the present than by retiring Matt Ryan's #12, Luke Kuechly's #40 and Mark Herzlich's #94? If memory serves, a pre-req for having your jersey retired is you have to have won a major National award. Haven't Ryan, Herzlich and now Kuechly all achieved this feat?

During his senior season, Matt Ryan won the Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award, given annually to the nation's outstanding senior quarterback in college football. Ryan led the Eagles to an 11-3 record, the program's first ACC Championship Game appearance and a victory in the Champs Sports Bowl over Michigan State. He's the only Eagle to have won the Golden Arm award which has been given annually since 1987. Ryan also came away with the Manning Award and was named ACC Player of the Year in 2007.

Herzlich, a 2008 All-American, won numerous awards for his courage in his battle with Ewing's Sarcoma and return to the field in 2010, including including the Disney Spirit Award, Nils V. "Swede" Nelson Award, an honorary Lott Trophy, and the ACC Commissioner's Cup.

And now Kuechly has earned the 2011 Dick Butkus Award, given to the nation's top linebacker.

Of the three, it's seems like it's more a question of when and not if the school retires Kuechly's #40, but I would argue all three former Eagles greats are more than deserving of the honor. And fast.

As for the timing, I'd argue that if Clemson can retire C.J. Spiller's number not half a year after he graduated from the school, then BC can retire #12 and #94 next season. And when Kuechly makes a decision and finally turns pro, then #40 should join Flutie, Ryan, Ruth and Herzlich as a retired jersey.

I can't think of a better way of bridging the generation gap between Ruth and Ryan than retiring all three former Eagles football jerseys. We've been trading on the Flutie magic for quite some time now. It's time for the current generation to stake its claim on Boston College football history by retiring Ryan, Herzlich and Kuechly's numbers.

Make it happen, Gene.

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The problem with retiring Herzlich's #94

is that Kiwanuka’s #94 should have already been retired.

GO BC!

by BCMike22 on Dec 7, 2011 12:07 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed. Retire #94 and put “Herznuka” on the wall?

by Brian Favat on Dec 7, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

You can't have my jersey!!

Well, maybe I’ll lend it to the wall.

GO BC!

by BCMike22 on Dec 7, 2011 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

dumbest tradition in sports

The first jersey number to be retired was #4 of the New York Yankees. It was retired because he had an incurable, terminal disease that was so rare, they named the disease after him.

Retiring #31 at BC makes sense (and I love that it’s “unretired” once a year by the player who gets his scholarship).

Retiring a number should be a tribute to a life cut tragically short, not a tribute to a college career that was extended into the pros.

by css01 on Dec 7, 2011 12:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

This ship has sailed for BC

The program isn’t going to take #22 and #68 off the wall. And having just two numbers retired in program history seems half-assed imo. Why not update the wall to include this generation’s BC greats?

I do agree this should be an honor confined to accomplishments in college, not the pros.

by Brian Favat on Dec 7, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

If college accomplishments is your criteria who would you want retired in basketball? I’d vote Dudley, Smith, Bell, and maybe Curley?

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by A.J Black on Dec 7, 2011 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Michael Adams (‘85), Terry Driscoll (’69), John Silk (‘53) and Gerry Ward (’63) are the current hoops retired jerseys.

Personally, I wouldn’t retire any other basketball numbers but after reading the above four player’s accomplishments, I think a case can be made for Bell, Smith, Dudley and Curley. Pretty surprised Curley number hasn’t been retired already.

by Brian Favat on Dec 7, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe Sean Williams as well.

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by A.J Black on Dec 7, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

You shut your mouth when you’re talking to me.

by Brian Favat on Dec 7, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Look for this

In 2013 and 2014 if the program continues to slide. Attendance bump.

by b0mberman on Dec 7, 2011 2:32 PM EST reply actions  

This, particularly in 2013.

Home schedule: Stony Brook, Syracuse, Wake Forest, N.C. State, Florida State, Georgia Tech

by Brian Favat on Dec 7, 2011 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Tough issue

But to me Heisman/Outland >> Unitas, Disney Spirit, etc.

Kuechly gets above the bar if he wins what he has left to win this year. Gut feel is just the Butkus maybe isn’t enough IF he doesn’t come back next year. Feels like it would fall between the two groups above, so really tough to call. Butkus plus smashing all-time tackle record is enough even if he doesn’t win anything further.

by CSOM_97 on Dec 7, 2011 4:48 PM EST reply actions  

Would BC be able to relax the standards and leave the decision to some sort of board? Players could be nominated by representatives who present cases a la NFL HOF. You could still have “national award” as an unwritten rule— with exceptions made on a case-by-case basis.

Is the fear that the floodgates would open?

by seaboard on Dec 7, 2011 6:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree with CSOM_97, Kuechly probably comes the closest if he stays and wins some more, but as much as I loved the Herzlich story, he didn’t win enough to retire a jersey and Ryan, oh so close, but no cigar.

Personally I’ve never been a fan of retiring numbers in any sport. Make that number something special to wear and a responsibility for those who choose to wear it.

by chicagofire1871 on Dec 7, 2011 6:49 PM EST reply actions  

I would like to see Crowther Field.

BC has the best sport graduation rate in the NCAA.

by WhoNeedsRudy on Dec 7, 2011 8:33 PM EST reply actions  

40 should not be retired

If Kuechly does not come back for another season

by Jeff Martyn on Dec 7, 2011 11:42 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Normally, I’d agree with you. But Spaz has officially made it impossible for me to hold it against Kuechly if he leaves early.

by Brian Favat on Dec 8, 2011 8:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Only for the best of the best..and define it

When you talk about an honor at this level, it really has to be the best of the best..the most special of special. This isn’t the BC Hall of Fame on the wall at Conte, where guys who averaged 10 points over a four year career on the hoop team are enshrined…it really needs to be special..and therefore defined. For me, there would be the absolute strictest criteria and a selection committee to determine if that criteria alone was enough.

1) automatic retirement if selected to the specific sport Hall of Fame
2) Multi year first team all-American status (you might even make the case for something this significant, it should require 3 or 4 time AA status)
3) single year winners of the highest honor in their individual sports (Heisman for football, Hobey Baker for hockey, Naismith for basketball, etc.)
4) establishment of national career records in an individual sport.
5) extraordinary accomplishments outside of their sport which transcended society. I thought about this one long and hard and simply can’t ignore what a Herzlich or Crowther accomplished.

Single game and even single season achievements aren’t even enough when you are discussing something like this.

Based on that criteria we would have the following list that then a selection committee could review:

Football: Doug Flutie (Heisman), Chet Gladchuk (CHOF), Gene Goodreault (CHOF), Mike Holovak (CHOF), George Kerr (CHOF), Charlie O’Rourke (CHOF), Luke Kuechly (2x AA), Mark Herzlich (outside contributions)

Basketball: none

Hockey: Joe Mullen (NHL-HOF, 2x AA), Mike Mottau (Hobey, 2x AA), David Emma (Hobey, 2x AA), Andrew Alberts (2x AA), Brian Gionta (3x AA), Greg Brown (2x AA), Tim Sheehy (2x AA), John Cunniff (2x AA), Red Martin (2x AA), Butch Songin (2x AA)

If you think about it, it makes sense. Hockey has the most storied history at the Heights and would be the most represented . Basketball the least storied history and has never produced a multi year all-American or Hall of Fame inductee. Football is a bit different in that it is the only sport where there is a college hall of fame that may skew the list.

Notice this actually takes some of the names that are currently retired, like Mike Ruth and removes them. Ruth did win the Outland trophy, but was a single year All-American. Not sure if that is completely worthy of retiring a number.

Coaches or administrators obviously aren’t looked on this list as they don’t wear “numbers” therefore nothing to retire.

by CoachJF on Dec 9, 2011 1:09 PM EST reply actions  

should have said also, I think retired numbers aren’t about the athletes place in BC history, but how they rank in the history of the sport. Doesn’t mean a Matt Ryan or a Mike Ruth or a Craig Smith wasn’t a great player, they all were, but compared to their peers across the nation, they didn’t achieve to that level.

by CoachJF on Dec 9, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed with all the critieria except this one.

Single year winners of the highest honor in their individual sports (Heisman for football, Hobey Baker for hockey, Naismith for basketball, etc.)

Agreed this probably makes sense for basketball or hockey, but I think it should be amended for football to state the highest honor for the player’s position, e.g. a non QB, RB or WR is probably never going to win the Heisman going forward. Which is why I think Ruth stays with the Outland Trophy.

In cases where there are multiple awards for one position (e.g. QB), I think you have to go with the most tenured one. In that case, for QBs you’d probably go with the Heisman or the Maxwell Award over the Johnny Unitas Golden Arm or the Manning Award. Which would mean Matt Ryan is out.

by Brian Favat on Dec 9, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Good point..maybe if we changed the criteria to unanimous position player of the year winners..that would cover it. QBs for the Maxwell and Davey O’Brien, etc. that would work. Just always rang hollow to me that for awards other than the ones that separate themselves for seniors only, when you have 3-4 different “Players of the Year” awards given by position. Always came across that it was like a basketball day camp award ceremony where everyone needed to go home with a trophy.

by CoachJF on Dec 9, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

Personally think there are too many college football national awards and not enough basketball / hoops. For instance, a college goalie is probably never going to win the Hobey and I don’t think there’s an award give to top goalie, freshman, defenseman, etc. Is there?

by Brian Favat on Dec 9, 2011 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

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