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Are Things Looking Up For Boston College Football And Basketball?

Jeff: With the basketball team on a two game winning streak and a chance to extend that to three games tonight against Sacred Heart, things are looking as good for the Eagles hoops team as they have all season. Meanwhile, some great-but-somewhat-expected news came last week in football when we learned that all the players, including most importantly, Montel Harris and Kaleb Ramsey, received medical hardship waivers and another year of eligibility.

Back on Thanksgiving (November 24) there was not much to be thankful for when it came to Boston College football and basketball. BC was 1-3 in basketball and had already lost to UMass by 36 points. Lately the basketball team has at least been competitive and has won two straight. In football, the Eagles sat at 3-8 and were in jeopardy of finishing the year with the worst record in the ACC. Surprisingly, the Eagles then went down to Miami and notched a victory to finish out the season. Suddenly the season looking a little brighter in basketball. And for football, the return of Harris, Ramsey, Jones, Wucjiak and possibly Momah, coupled with the stronger finish than expected by the football team, things seem to be looking up for BC. Would you take the over or the under on combined wins increasing by 12 between the football and basketball teams in 2012-13 as compared to this year?

Brian: It's easy to chalk up improvement to wins and losses based on when you play the games. But it's impossible to ignore a 1-6 start and focus solely on the 3-2 finish. The teams BC beat down the stretch weren't terribly impressive -- a 2-10 Maryland team that completely fell apart under Randy Edsall, an underachieving 7-5 N.C. State team that only became bowl eligible because they faced two I-AA opponents and a 6-5 Miami team that found out earlier in the week that their season would end after the Black Friday game against BC. BC still lost to 3-9 Duke, still lost to 5-7 UCF and still lost to a pair of .500 teams in Wake Forest and Northwestern.

While I don't buy any of the excuses we've heard over the past few weeks, I will compliment Spaz on not losing the team and having the team playing hard down the stretch. You could tell the players still desperately wanted to win, even if the coaching staff didn't put them in a position to do so.

That said, I look more at the macro factors surrounding next year's BC football season. You have to think both Florida State and Virginia Tech will be in the National title picture next season. Clemson isn't going anywhere. Wake will continue to overachieve under Grobe. BC replaces Duke on the schedule with Georgia Tech from the Coastal. I know it's far too early, but I simply can't see BC improving more than two games overall and think this team looks like a 6-6 squad next season. I had already factored in the return of the players mentioned. But I think the coaching will continue to limit BC, the schedule gets a bit tougher and the rest of the ACC continues to improve around the Eagles.

For hoops, I agree that the team is starting to play better recently. Donahue continues to cut down on the rotations and get to a more regular rotation of players. Though it's one thing to play well against Stony Brook, Bryant and Sacred Heart, and quite another to string together wins come ACC play. Wins will be at a premium after tonight's game at Sacred Heart.

As for increased win total, I think Donahue's young squad will continue to improve, but I don't see a double-digit win total increase next season to get to a 12 combined win total increase. This year's non-conference schedule was particularly soft, and the Eagles will probably only win 5-6 of those 14 non-conference games. Unless next year's schedule is equally soft, BC may actually struggle more to notch wins in non-conference play next season than this year. The Eagles may make some noise in ACC play next season, but I can't see a significant increase in the number of ACC wins next season right now.

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Why should FSU be in the National Title hunt next year?

Everyone said that this year. Their offense was downright putrid at times. Are we all just going to keep saying it until it finally happens?

by b0mberman on Dec 21, 2011 10:04 AM EST reply actions  

The FSU offense sure was putrid up in Chestnut Hill.

by Brian Favat on Dec 21, 2011 11:08 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

So the ability to put up 300 total yards of offense against a team that was middling at best on the defensive side of the ball means we should expect them to compete for a national championship?

by b0mberman on Dec 21, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Look at the schedule. No Oklahoma. Clemson, BC, Florida and West Virginia at home. Get Duke from the Coastal. FSU nearly beat Clemson on the road with their backup QB this year.

Held onto Stoops.

Won 10 games last year. Will probably win 9 games this year. The Seminoles are not far off in my mind. I fail to see what makes you think they won’t continue to improve next season.

by Brian Favat on Dec 21, 2011 11:19 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Middling, schmiddling.

by bc2208 on Dec 21, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

In other words, I don’t think BC fans can point to anything from recent history that suggests the Eagles will challenge either Florida State or Clemson for the Division title next season. We go to Wake and State next year.

The Maryland dysfunction is really the only thing keeping BC out of the Atlantic Division basement.

by Brian Favat on Dec 21, 2011 11:12 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I didn’t question us challenging FSU, I questioned FSU challenging for the National title.

by b0mberman on Dec 21, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

The Maryland dysfunction is really the only thing keeping BC out of the Atlantic Division basement

Maryland is the “ONLY” thing keeping BC from the bottom of the barrel. You can’t imagine BC beating Wake, NCSU, Maryland and Miami/ or maybe one or two of Clemson or VT or GT or FSU. you have a really, really gloomy outlook, and that’s too bad.

Optimism is a good thing. (and no it does not mean predicting a 9-3 season and ACCCG game, but it does mean seeing the possibility of BC winning more games than not) Try it. If you needs some help >>>>> http://www.wikihow.com/Be-Optimistic

by eagleosprey on Dec 21, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Did waterwater change his name?

by hoyaeagle on Dec 21, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

but, I heard about you

you are the traitor to BC, the quisling, who defamed waterwater on the ND site, Rakes of Mallow:

I think the jerks on both sides of the fanbase (like mr. waterwater for BC) are the ones who piss the other fanbases off the most. It only takes one…
Every Month March.
by hoyaeagle on Jun 10, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
.

by eagleosprey on Dec 21, 2011 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

and, as you desired, shortly thereafter waterwater was banned from Rakes of Mallow. A pity

by eagleosprey on Dec 21, 2011 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Waterwater is back!

by hoyaeagle on Dec 21, 2011 9:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I can definitely envision...

the possibility that basketball will continue to show improvement at their current rate and upset Harvard. If that happens, you might want to re-evaluate your predictions for next year.

by formereagledad on Dec 21, 2011 1:05 PM EST reply actions  

“upset Harvard”

Boy, what a world we live in.

by seaboard on Dec 21, 2011 8:40 PM EST up reply actions  

FEAR NOT

According to EA Sports NCAA Football ’12, Chase Rettig develops into a Heisman trophy finalist by his Senior year with a 96 overall rating. The future is bright.

by BC Legal Eagle on Dec 21, 2011 5:29 PM EST reply actions  

the immortal jeff smith

Was also a runaway EA sports ncaa 2009 (?) heisman winner for me.

I’ll hope chase is a better Eagle on the field

by cwm2005 on Dec 21, 2011 7:50 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

And Okoroha is an All-American his senior year also!

by bcnyceagle on Dec 21, 2011 9:47 PM EST up reply actions  

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