Spaziani In-Game Management: Punting In Opponent Territory
Yesterday, we took at look at mgoblog's timeout clock management decision logic as compared to Spaz's actual in-game performance in 2011. Let's take a look at some other basic decision-making and strategy guidelines. Today, let's take a look at punting in opponent's territory.
Conventional wisdom is that punting in opponent territory isn't a great idea. The thought process goes "we'll pin them deep" but rarely does that work out. Here's why:
"There are two key problems with this assumption. The first is that 36% of punts from opponent territory result in a touchback or never reach the 20, and that's before any returns are factored in. The second is that it's pretty tough to actually down it close to the end zone, and unless you are at the 1 or 2, there is no special advantage.
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Another problem with an opponent territory punt is that it's tough to get an even exchange. Punting into the short side of the field limits the best case scenario and assuming you can force a punt from the opponent, gives them a lot of positive variance opportunity.
Now I'm not here to knock BC's punting this year. Quigley was easily the MVP of multiple games this year. But I do want to take a look at the coaching staff's decisions on when and where to punt. Spaz is notorious for conservative play-calling, which includes punting in opponent territory.
Boston College punted the ball 69 times this season. Of those 69 punts, a total of 18 were snapped from either midfield or in opponent territory. So more than one in every four punts BC took this year was taken in opponent territory. Yeesh.
The Eagles punted from as far in as the opponent's 38 yard line (in the Wake Forest game), and punted the ball a season-high four times in opponent territory in the Notre Dame game (from midfield, the Irish 49, 44 and 41). BC punted the ball from opponent territory more than once in the Miami (3), Virginia Tech (3), Maryland (2) and UMass (2) games. In the game at Virginia Tech, BC punted in Hokies territory on three consecutive offensive possessions -- from the Hokies 46, 40 and 39 -- all up just 7-3.
And of course, the most egregious example of conservative, waving-the-white-flag play-calling was Spaz's decision to punt the ball on 4th and 9, down 31 late in the fourth quarter against Florida State.
It's these types of conservative play-calling strategies that are going to make BC lose close games going forward. The Eagles go into next season without a veteran punter to give them good field position. The coaching staff will have to get a little more aggressive in the play-calling, including going for it on fourth down more often in opposing territory. The math simply is not in BC's favor punting in opponent territory.
After the jump, the complete list of offending punts.
When trailing ...
vs. Northwestern -- 4th and 10 from the NW 49, down 17-10
vs. Wake Forest -- 4th and 8 from the WAKE 38, down 10-3
at Clemson -- 4th and 10 from the CLEM 50, down 17-0
vs. Florida State -- 4th and 9 from the FSU 43, down 38-7
at Notre Dame -- 4th and 2 from the ND 50, down 10-0
at Notre Dame -- 4th and 10 from the ND 49, down 13-7
at Notre Dame -- 4th and 3 from the ND 41, down 13-7
at Notre Dame -- 4th and 5 from the ND 44, down 13-7
at Miami -- 4th and 11 from the MIA 48, down 14-10
When leading ...
vs. Massachusetts -- 4th and 16 from the MASS 39, up 24-7
vs. Massachusetts -- 4th and 15 from the MASS 39, up 24-7
at Virginia Tech -- 4th and 9 from the VT 46, up 7-3
at Virginia Tech -- 4th and 7 from the VT 40, up 7-3
at Virginia Tech -- 4th and 6 from the VT 39, up 7-3
at Maryland -- 4th and 6 from the MD 49, up 21-3
at Maryland -- 4th and 2 from the MD 45, up 21-3
at Miami -- 4th and 6 from the MIA 41, up 24-14
at Miami -- 4th and 10 from the MIA 47, up 24-14
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good piece
brian — nice analysis. I agree that by and large, Spaz is a spineless coach and that lack of nerve costs BC games.
but I think you did overlook that Quigley is a very potent weapon. Look at the results from the ND and Miami games
(behind) at Notre Dame – 4th and 2 from the ND 50, down 10-0 >>Punt to 5
(behind) at Notre Dame – 4th and 10 from the ND 49, down 13-7 >>punt to 12
(behind) at Notre Dame – 4th and 3 from the ND 41, down 13-7 >>> punt to ND 8
(behind) at Notre Dame – 4th and 5 from the ND 44, down 13-7 >>> punt to ND 9
(behind) at Miami — 4th and 11 from the MIA 48, down 14-10 >>> punts to Miami 10
(leading) at Miami — 4th and 6 from the MIA 41, up 24-14 >>> punt to Miami 10
(leading) at Miami — 4th and 10 from the MIA 47, up 24-14 >>> punt to Miami 2
Really, this is very effective punting. Any time it is more than say 4th and 5 and BC is beyond the 40 yard line, it is time to punt. So the Miami punts all met that standard, but the several of the ND punts did not — e.g., Spaz should have went for it.
also, of note, and quite surprising, BC is just as aggressive on 4th as any almost every ACC team except Duke. Here are the stats form teh ACC official stat site
4th down attempt success/tries
1. Duke 22/36
2. NC State 11/20
3. Boston College 9/17
4. Georgia Tech 10/19
5. Virginia 10/20
….North Carolina 6/12
….Wake Forest 10/20
8. Miami 8/17
…Virginia Tech* 8/17
10. Maryland 13/29
11. Clemson* 7/17
12. Florida State 2/6
I agree Quigley is a dangerous weapon, and one that Spaz will not get to rely on next season. But punting from the opposing 30s is jut inexcusable.
Editor, BC Interruption
by Brian Favat on Dec 20, 2011 12:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
true
Spaz won’t have Quigley to semi-justify his punting philosphy, and he will keep punting to avoid a challenge
but the few punts from the 30’s (and low 40’s) were going to be tough first downs and almost impossible FGs.
- vs. Wake Forest — 4th and 8 from the WAKE 38, down 10-3 (alternative 55 yard FG attempt)
- at Virginia Tech — 4th and 6 from the VT 39, up 7-3 (alternative 56 yard FG attempt)
- at Miami — 4th and 6 from the MIA 41, up 24-14 (58 yarder!)
- at Notre Dame — 4th and 3 from the ND 41, down 13-7 (58 yarder!)
only as to #4 should Spaz have 90% gone for it. #1, #2, 70% he should ahve gone for the first or took a shot at a FG
by eagleosprey on Dec 20, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
Disagree that any of the Punts in Irish territory were a good decision. Extend one of those three drives and BC could have won that game. Same for VT. Spaz needs to grow a pair.
Editor, BC Interruption
by Brian Favat on Dec 20, 2011 1:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
glad u don't coach
at Notre Dame – 4th and 10 from the ND 49, down 13-7
4th and 10 from midfield. Nutz to go for it (unless the clock is almost run out)
same with VT
at Virginia Tech — 4th and 9 from the VT 46, up 7-3
at Virginia Tech — 4th and 7 from the VT 40, up 7-3
it would have been stupid to go for it in these situtaion (AND WITH THE LEAD)
a FG OF 63 and 57 yards WOULD NOT BE possible for Freese
Spaz needs to grow a pair
not in these instances, Mr arm-chair QB
Conveniently ignores the other three times BC had the ball in Irish territory and elected to punt, but OK waterwater eagleosprey
God forbid Spaz go for it from the Irish 41 and 44 down 6 midway through the third quarter.
Editor, BC Interruption
Really now? Check out these 4 series, including "going for it"
Boston Coll. – 5:30
1st-10, ND47 5:30 T. Kimble rushed to the left for 6 yard gain
2nd-4, ND41 5:25 C. Rettig incomplete pass down the middle
3rd-4, ND41 4:57 C. Rettig incomplete pass to the left
4th-4, ND41 4:44 R. Quigley punt. J. Goodman returned punt for no gain
Boston Coll. – 3:28
1st-10, ND49 3:28 T. Kimble rushed up the middle for 5 yard gain
2nd-5, ND44 3:20 C. Rettig incomplete pass to the left
3rd-5, ND44 3:00 C. Rettig incomplete pass down the middle
4th-5, ND44 2:39 R. Quigley punt. J. Goodman returned punt for no gain
4th Quarter
Boston Coll. – 14:17
1st-10, BC1 14:17 R. Finch rushed to the right for 8 yard gain
2nd-2, BC28 13:34 J. Bordner rushed to the right for no gain
3rd-2, BC28 12:10 Boston Coll. committed 5 yard penalty
3rd-7, BC23 12:10 C. Rettig incomplete pass to the left
4th-7, BC23 12:10 R. Quigley punt. J. Goodman returned punt for no gain
Boston Coll. – 8:08
1st-10, BC40 8:08 C. Rettig incomplete pass to the right
2nd-10, BC40 8:08 C. Rettig rushed to the right for 6 yard gain. Notre Dame committed 15 yard penalty
1st-10, ND39 8:02 C. Rettig incomplete pass to the right
2nd-10, ND39 7:38 C. Rettig incomplete pass to the left
3rd-10, ND39 7:29 C. Rettig incomplete pass to the right
4th-10, ND39 7:24 C. Rettig incomplete pass down the middle
Conveniently ignores the
evidence that it made no sense to 'go for it' on thoseother three times BC had the ball in Irish territory and electing to puntmade football sense, but OKwaterwater eagleospreySpazBFremain silent because you have no response.
by eagleosprey on Dec 21, 2011 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
Instead of kicking a field goal, a team can also try to pick up the first down, you know.
4th and 5. 4th and 3. 4th and 2. Tough first downs there …
Editor, BC Interruption
Typically the teams that are most aggressive on fourth down are playing from behind more often than not.
Editor, BC Interruption
by Brian Favat on Dec 20, 2011 12:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
yep — Duke and Maryland lead the desperado club!
by eagleosprey on Dec 20, 2011 12:56 PM EST up reply actions

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