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Quigley Named ACC Player of the Week (BCEagles.com)
Boston College senior punter Ryan Quigley has been named ACC Special Teams Player of the Week, the league announced today.

BC is getting defensive (The Milford Daily News)
"Everything shows up on defense first," BC coach Frank Spaziani said yesterday during his weekly conference call. "We've played the last two games with a little bit more emotion, a little bit more passion. That comes with some confidence, and there were some good schemes that helped us out. We need to build on that."

BC’s big recovery (BostonHerald.com)
Two points was the smallest margin of victory for the Irish this season. The BC defense has held North Carolina State and Notre Dame to a combined two touchdowns and four field goals in consecutive weeks.

Mutka: Boston College continues to give ND fits (Post-Tribune)
Makes you wonder why NBC continues to court an overhyped, underachieving program, doesn’t it? In spite of the contrived annual hoopla, the Irish haven’t been relevant since Lou Holtz abruptly bolted after the 1996 season.

The good, the bad, the ugly: Notre Dame vs. Boston College (Inside the Irish)
For all the bellyaching that’s followed the Irish’s imperfect 16-14 victory over Boston College, a chaotic Saturday in the college football world should’ve given people plenty of reminders that no victory should be assumed and simply surviving is sometimes accomplishment enough.

ACC power rankings: Week 13 (ESPN ACC Blog)
10. Boston College (3-8, 2-5; LW: No. 11) – BC pushed Notre Dame to the brink before losing, 16-14, but the Eagles had plenty of opportunities they didn’t capitalize on. BC was just 3-of-13 on third-down conversions, and the offense struggled for most of the second half. BC will try to finish the season on a positive note on Friday at Miami. 

Cancer survivor Mark Herzlich starts for Giants vs. Eagles (AP)
"When the national anthem was playing, and I was out and knew I was going on the field, I closed my eyes and thought, ‘This was happening,’" he said. "So as long as I am playing football, I will give my 100 percent every game. That’s where I have to give my 100 percent, doing the right thing every play."

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Makes you wonder why NBC continues to court an overhyped, underachieving program, doesn’t it? In spite of the contrived annual hoopla, the Irish haven’t been relevant since Lou Holtz abruptly bolted after the 1996 season.

and this said by a Chicago journalist! YES.

ND preens and pretends it is still our “better” and is still relevant in the national conversation.

Frankly, if ND woke up and realized that its desire to remain independent — self love — is hurting its competitiveness and it joined the ACC — or some other league — it could in fact get back into the national conversation!

But, fittingly, its arrogance about who it thinks it is holds it back. Like Narccisius, ND has fallen in love with itself long ago. May it soon lean just a little farther forward to get a glimpse of itself and fall forever into the pool.

by eagleosprey on Nov 21, 2011 3:06 PM EST reply actions  

Disagree

Notre Dame remains nationally relevant because of, not in spite of, its football independence.

If forced to finally join a conference, the Irish would fade from the national picture by failing to win the ACC (over Virginia Tech, Florida State, Clemson) or Big Ten (over Ohio State, Michigan, Nebraska, Penn State, Wisconsin). Also wouldn’t enjoy a sweetheart BCS bowl berth arrangement and wouldn’t play in undeserved BCS bowls.

Irish football would simply become nothing special. Just a middle-to-upper tier ACC / Big Ten program that wins the conference once a decade.

by Brian Favat on Nov 21, 2011 3:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

if in the ACC

I think ND would compete for the ACC title, and the BCS game, frequently if it joined the ACC.

I guess I was echoing the Chicago writer’s point; one day soon, NBC is going to say ND’s deal is not worth it and not offer ND the sweetheart deal. So ND better get ‘good’ on its own, or join a league to get ‘good.’

by eagleosprey on Nov 21, 2011 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Even if NBC bails on the Irish, Notre Dame has zero incentive to join a conference. ESPN or CBS would easily pick up that contract, much like ESPN’s current deals with BYU and Texas.

The only way Notre Dame joins the ACC / Big Ten is to change the college football postseason format.

If college football wises up and goes to a playoff, you’ll see Notre Dame join a conference. Short of that, so long as the Irish maintain their “9-wins and BCS” deal, they aren’t going anywhere. The only other thing that can change this is if the BCS abandons the automatic qualifying for the non-title game bowls and allows the Rose, Fiesta, Sugar and Orange to pursue their own conference tie-ins. In that scenario, I’m not sure ND has much leverage but to join one of the Big Five.

by Brian Favat on Nov 21, 2011 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Still disagree that Notre Dame would instantly compete for the ACC title more often than not.

Part of the appeal for recruits is that ND gets to play a national schedule (USC, Michigan, Purdue, Navy, Pitt, BC) and are on network TV every weekend. Put them in the ACC or Big Ten and the Irish can no longer play a national schedule. They’ll still likely be on TV every weekend, but the loss of playing a national schedule (and playing in NFL stadiums every once in a while) makes the Irish football program that less special.

I think over time you’d see the southern programs — Florida State, Clemson, Virginia Tech, Georgia Tech — win the conference more often than Notre Dame. ND would become a solid conference team, but without its two big selling points (national schedule against traditional rivals on network TV), ND becomes another good-but-not-great private school playing in a conference dominated by southern, public schools.

by Brian Favat on Nov 21, 2011 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Feeling not so special anymore ...
Many Notre Dame fans, myself included, worry that Notre Dame will lose its individuality if it joins the Big Ten. When you’re a small Catholic school in a small Indiana town, you need something unique to set you apart, not just to football recruits but to high school students around the country. Notre Dame has that now with football independence. Good or bad, ND gets mentioned on Sportscenter every week. The Irish also have the flexibility to schedule games in California or Texas or the East Coast to market the school across the country. If Notre Dame joins the Big Ten, they lose that. Playing games in Iowa or Minnesota doesn’t add anything. Yeah, we’ll still have OOC games, but in a sixteen team league (which is what I’m assuming in this scenario) how much freedom would we really have? Would we want to schedule USC, Navy, and Boston College every year and basically lock ourselves into the same schedule year in or year out or would drop some of our traditional rivalries? Neither of those options are particularly appealing.

The Irish guys are worried about this. Replace “Big Ten” with “ACC” and the same issues are there.

http://www.bcinterruption.com/2011/11/17/2566832/notre-dame-football-boston-college-preview-predictions-november-19

by Brian Favat on Nov 21, 2011 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

and i hope you notice what Narccisius is gazing into: water.

by eagleosprey on Nov 21, 2011 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

eh

Yes, they are so irrelevant that people still talk about them, buy tickets to their games, and buy merchandise.

Underachieving? Absolutely.

Irrelevant? No.

Army and Minnesota are irrelevant football programs who have seen much better days.

by seaboard on Nov 21, 2011 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

to what exactly is ND relevant?

to themselves and their own myopic and misguided fans, i guess.

But ND does not effect any other teams ability to win a conference championship. ND is not a top 15 team having input on the BCS standings. I guess a win over ND can make a marginal team bowl eligible. But I don’t think that is the relevancy you are talking about. They sell a lot of merchandize? hmmm. ok. Not really relevant to football power.

So to what exactly are they relevant?

by eagleosprey on Nov 21, 2011 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

The problem is you only associate relevance with football power. It’s not that simple. If the powers-that-be were to reduce relevance to one issue, it would not be football power— it would be money. And money is where Notre Dame is anything but irrelevant.

The fact that a 3-loss Notre Dame team is not fully eliminated from a BCS at-large bid in most years speaks to their relevance. How many other schools would bowl committees fall over to invite? They know Notre Dame fans travel and spend money.

The fact that schools hosting Notre Dame see sell-outs and record attendance figures speaks to their relevance.

The fact that some of those schools, upon beating this mediocre Notre Dame, still call the victory one of the finest in their program history speaks to their relevance.

The fact that Notre Dame is able to play anywhere in the country and still draw fans who love them and hate them to the game speaks to their relevance.

The fact that Notre Dame’s games are nationally broadcast speaks to their relevance. No, it is not unique anymore, but it provides quite a stage for their players (and opponents) to get national attention.

Few people will change their mind about Notre Dame. If Notre Dame were a top-15 team, I’m certain ND-haters would be quick to say ND either beat up on weak competition or won over the media yet again.

And since when has college football been concerned with crowning the best team in the country? A small group of elite programs has a disproportionately large share of history and titles:

Notre Dame, Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State
Nebraska, Texas, Oklahoma, USC, Alabama
Tennessee, Florida State, Florida, Miami, LSU

Sure, you’ll have a Stanford, Wisconsin, Boise State, TCU, BYU, etc make things interesting every now and then, but you could pick a small group of schools from the elite list and guarantee a high finish most years.

by seaboard on Nov 22, 2011 12:19 AM EST up reply actions  

The fact that a 3-loss Notre Dame team is not fully eliminated from a BCS at-large bid in most years speaks to their relevance. How many other schools would bowl committees fall over to invite? They know Notre Dame fans travel and spend money.

Actually, this has nothing to do with money, at least directly. Has everything to do with the BCS rules that go out of their way to cater towards the Irish.

by Brian Favat on Nov 22, 2011 8:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Sure, BCS rules that are in place because of $$

by seaboard on Nov 22, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Right, but fact that a 3-loss Notre Dame team is still up for a BCS at-large is directly related to the BCS carve-out for the Irish. Not $$.

by Brian Favat on Nov 22, 2011 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

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