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Five Good Minutes: Florida State Football Preview With Tomahawk Nation

To preview Thursday night's game between the Boston College Eagles and the Florida St. Seminoles, we welcome back Tomahawk Nation to the blog for Five Good Minutes. In exchange, we answered some questions on the Eagles over at their site. Be sure to stop by and check them out.

Also be sure to review our Q&A with Tomahawk Nation from over the summer.

 

BC Interruption: How has Florida State managed to bounce back from three consecutive losses to Oklahoma, Clemson and Wake Forest? Has this been a product of an easier slate of opponents? What adjustments has Fisher and this team made?

Tomahawk Nation: After the nightmare that was the three-game losing streak in the early part of the season, the ‘Noles have rebounded to play some solid football. The loss to Oklahoma was completely acceptable and saw FSU play their best football game of the season. The next week's loss to Clemson was disappointing because of the defensive effort, which failed to keep pace with its freshman-led offense that was playing way over its head. After a bye week, the Wake Forest debacle was an indictment of everyone involved with the program. The challenge, then, was to return to playing quality defense and solid offense knowing that the chances of an Atlantic Division title were largely gone.

Florida State has managed to do this over the past few weeks. The schedule has certainly been far nicer to the ‘Noles, but it's the way the team has played that has given fans some hope. The defense is a top-notch unit that seems to get more comfortable in year two of their system each week. We're seeing more and more variations on looks they give to the offense and better understanding and execution of their assignments. Combine this with the scary amount of talent and depth that the Seminole defense features and you have a formidable challenge for any offense.

On offense, FSU has finally seemed to settle into an identity. The first two games against the requisite cupcakes saw Jimbo Fisher loath to run EJ Manuel, both to protect him and to avoid showing his hand to Oklahoma and Clemson. As a result, we didn't see what the ‘Noles offense really wanted to look like with EJ in control until Oklahoma, where he was promptly injured in the second half. He didn't play against Clemson and when he entered the game against Wake he did so as passing skeleton EJ, as Jimbo didn't want his left shoulder to take many hits. So, the operational EJ death star didn't really rear its head until these past three games, which saw significant doses of option and freedom for #3 to use his legs. At 6'5" 245, Manuel is an incredibly gifted runner who has a great feel for the option. We at TN are concerned with some of his reads in the passing game, but when the offensive gameplan starts with establishing Manuel as a runner, life gets much easier for the Seminoles.

So, the adjustments that Jimbo has made have really been few and far between. Getting EJ healthy has been key, and the defense has seemed to simply evolve naturally. The one tactical change that has stood out to us is the use of more 4 WR spread sets to negate the incompetence that is FSU's tight end position. Freshman Nick O'Leary is seeing an increased role there, but the rest of the Seminole players there are best kept out of the game.

 

BCI: Florida State QB E.J. Manuel had a big day on Saturday against the N.C. State defense, throwing for 321 yards and 2 TDs. Assess Manuel's season to date. Do you expect Manuel to have success against a D that has gotten the better of FSU QBs (read: Ponder) the past three seasons -- 2 TDs vs. 6 INTs?

TN: As mentioned above, EJ is really just now getting comfortable with the type of offense Fisher wants to run with him. He's a great runner. However, he's not yet adept at reading the middle of a defense. His most comfortable throws are on timing outside the hash marks and on the screens to the wideouts that FSU loves to run. Christian Ponder was outstanding in the pre-snap phase of the game, checking FSU into the correct plays and going through his progressions to find the open receiver. He was given more control over Jimbo's offense than any quarterback that he has ever had. Manuel is not quite to this level of understanding just yet. We think and hope that #3 is progressing in these areas, as his development as a player and his professional prospects depend on it. He has all the physical tools that you could want, but he needs to master the finer points of becoming a true quarterback to take the ‘Noles to the next level.

Boston College's defense has certainly posed problems historically for Florida State offenses. This has mostly been due to dominance up front by a large front seven that was very well coached. While featuring some size on the interior DL and a playmaker in Kuechly, this is not your older brother's BC defense. It's a banged-up unit that has struggled so far this year, though some of these struggles are likely due to the positions in which the offense has put them. I expect this trend to continue on Thursday. FSU's defense is outstanding and should handle the Boston College offense, giving the ‘Noles offense good field position and limiting the scope of what they need to do to have success. FSU will use EJ's legs and make the Eagles tackle its skill players using the underneath stuff. I don't expect the Seminoles to move the ball at will, but I do expect a reasonable amount of success.

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BCI: BC's Rolandan Finch had a huge game against the 118th run defense last Saturday, but Florida State's run D is a completely different animal. The Noles D ranks 4th in the country in rush defense, allowing just 77 YPG. How has FSU's rush D been so dominant this season? Who are the playmakers on that side of the ball?

TN: The Seminole defense is excellent, especially against the run. Most of this is attributable to an extremely talented and deep defensive line. Though the ‘Noles lost starting defensive tackle Jacobbi McDaniel for the year with an ankle injury, the 10+ linemen that FSU will play are able to take this loss in stride. Bjoern Werner is a monster at defensive end, and Brandon Jenkins is excellent on the opposite side, often playing a roaming position while standing. On the interior, Amp McCloud has been very solid in clogging the middle this season, and RS freshman Cam Erving has been excellent as well. True freshman Timmy Jernigan is the freak of the group, wowing everyone as his snaps have increased. The line sometimes masks the inconsistencies of the linebacker corps. Nigel Bradham and Vince Williams struggle in coverage, prompting more playing time from Telvin Smith and Jeff Luc. Christian Jones is a freak, and #7 will be seen making plenty of plays on Thursday. Though the corners haven't stood out as much as they did last year, we still feel that the ‘Noles have three NFL-bound players at that position. The most important player on defense, though, is roaming safety true sophomore Lamarcus Joyner. Though called the strong safety by Stoops, Joyner plays a center field position for the Seminoles, doing everything from rushing the passer to playing the single-high safety spot.

Mark Stoops will show 4-3, 3-4, nickel, and 4-2-5 looks throughout the game. He will employ both man and zone coverages and blitz from anywhere and everywhere. The scheme is truly multiple, which makes life difficult for opposing offenses. It has been a pleasure to watch this unit mature and progressively dominate throughout this season and to know that it brings all of its important pieces back for next year.

 

BCI: Would anything less than winning out be acceptable to Florida State fans at this point?

TN: Eh, I guess that would depend on which ones you talk with. The expectations were extremely high entering this year only to be derailed by injuries and dumb scheduling. With the way the ‘Noles are playing right now, I think the hype train has started to get fired up again. The ugly losses that Miami and Florida suffered last week probably mean that the majority of FSU fans would be irate with a loss to either of those teams, even more so than usual. Florida State is starting to get healthy and to find its identity, and I think its best football is still ahead. More than one loss the rest of the way would be very disappointing. The rational among FSU fans will recognize that Miami will give the ‘Noles a test and that winning at Florida is never an easy task. The odds say Seminoles fans should be okay with one loss, but I think the average fan will be upset with anything less than finishing 9-3.

 

BCI: Requisite ACC expansion question. You cool with the additions of Syracuse and Pitt? Will the ACC stop at 14? If not, who ya got for 15 and 16?

TN: By making the moves that it made, the ACC has ensured that when super-conference-a-palooza comes around it will have a seat at the table. When viewed from that perspective, it's understandable. However, the move also showed us that the priority of the conference is basketball, which is dwarfed in terms of revenue by football. By and large, Florida State fans are deeply uncomfortable with this and question the leadership of the conference that doesn't seem to understand this crucial component to long-term viability. Combined with the pattern of ignorance displayed by the Tobacco Road head honchos, this has FSU fans feeling less than particularly fond of the ACC. As of now, it doesn't appear that there is a rush to get to 16 teams anywhere. However, if the Big East collapses, as it appears to be on the verge of doing, things will get interesting. I would think that there would be a mad dash to grab the unaffiliated teams to fill out conferences, probably ending up at 16. The ACC needs the best football programs it can get its hands on. I know you guys may not favor this, but the conference needs to do anything and everything it can to bring Notre Dame into the fold. It has to have football viability in order to be stable. Notre Dame and UConn would help to do this. But, I do not claim to be a conference expansion expert by any means.

 

BCI: Last one. Prediction time. Who ya got? What's the final score?

TN: This game has the potential to be an ugly one, which helps BC. I will never understand why the ACC wants to have all eyes across the country on its conference game on a Thursday night when both teams are playing on four days rest. Give them the week and a half to prepare and the product will be of a higher quality. But, complaining about ACC incompetence aside, I have to think that the FSU talent advantage will be too much for the struggling Eagles. The ‘Noles defense and excellent special teams should help out its offense by providing good field position and turnovers. Though it might not have its best night execution-wise, I think the offense will find the endzone a couple of times and move the ball at a decent rate. I'll predict an FSU victory of 27-10.

 

For more on the Florida State Seminoles, be sure to check out Tomahawk Nation.

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Is it just me

or does this make FSU fans seem like a bunch of complainers? Looks like it’ll be an excuse-off between BC and FSU – injuries scheduling weather. Spaz can roll out excuses at will, BC 12 FSU 9

by Lothar17 on Nov 2, 2011 9:05 AM EDT reply actions  

What in that sounded like complaining?

Our disappointing season is the product of dumb scheduling & poor injury luck, the same could be said about BC’s season. Are you predicting a TD-free, 7 combined field game? To predict that FSU won’t score double-digits is laughable.

by NationWideNole on Nov 2, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

What, exactly, is dumb about this year’s scheduling? Curious.

by Brian Favat on Nov 2, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Playing Oklahoma when you already have UF, and then the ACC sending FSU to Clemson right after the ’Noles put their neck out for the conference in playing OU.


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by Bud Elliott on Nov 2, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hogwash!

If you’re a team that was ranked as high as Florida State, then there should be no such animal called “put their neck out”. If you’re a team in the national championship conversation, then I assume you have the talent and coaching to overcome scheduling, weather and even injuries. In essence, you largely control your destiny.

I haven’t watched a lot of FSU this year, but they sound as if they have the pieces to be a really good team, but something key, maybe mental toughness, is holding them back at times.

by bblaqus on Nov 2, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

With all due respect

That’s just not true. Championship chances depend heavily on scheduling and injury luck. That’s why it’s not always the best two teams playing for the title in January. There was no reason for FSU to play Oklahoma. Good teams don’t “control their destiny” any more than other teams do.

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by DKfromVA on Nov 2, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

But the ACC didn’t “make” Florida State play Oklahoma.

by Brian Favat on Nov 2, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

You’re right. That’s on the incompetent AD Randy Spetman. Didn’t say it was out of FSU’s hands. Clemson the week after was. But, I almost look at it as reaping what you sow when you do something as dumb as scheduling OU.

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by DKfromVA on Nov 2, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly that's what makes it worse

We did them a favor, and then they ship us to Death Valley for one of the most important conference games of the year

by NationWideNole on Nov 2, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, ok then.

Well thanks for putting your neck out for the rest of the conference. Appreciate it.

by Brian Favat on Nov 2, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do you agree

That playing a high profile OOC game is beneficial to the conference?

by NationWideNole on Nov 2, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sure, but it’s not like FSU was the only one to “stick their neck out” and “take one for the team” in the conference.

Stanford – Duke
Notre Dame – BC, Maryland, Wake Forest
Ohio State – Miami

So props to FSU, but the Noles weren’t the only program to schedule a relatively challenging non-conf schedule.

by Brian Favat on Nov 2, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Virginia Tech and N.C. State’s non-conference schedules were unacceptable, however.

There’s a balance between those schedules and a challenging one that programs should work towards. Something like 1 BCS AQ, 1 strong mid-major, 1 weak mid-major and a I-AA creampuff.

by Brian Favat on Nov 2, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

We play UF every year as our already tough OOC game. There is no benefit for our program to play another OOC game like that in any year. If we go undefeated with 3 chumps and UF as OOC schedule we go to the Championship game regardless.

Would you be happy about BC’s schedule if you had to go play Bama and Texas plus an ACC schedule?

by DoubleNickel on Nov 2, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

and like DK says, then go play us in Tally the week after Bama.

by DoubleNickel on Nov 2, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Something like 1 BCS AQ, 1 strong mid-major, 1 weak mid-major and a I-AA creampuff.

How does the above mean Bama and Texas in a season?

Again, if you don’t want to schedule OU, that’s fine. But schedule OU and then complain about the ACC schedule rings a bit hollow. Nearly every ACC program could complain about the schedule at some level.

by Brian Favat on Nov 2, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just the ACC would understand that and make the schedule as accommodating as possible to teams that go out of their way and schedule a high-level opponent.

by NationWideNole on Nov 2, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

There's that

But more to the point, why are they scheduling their preeminent Atlantic Division match-up (FSU-CU) the week after both teams play big OOC games (OU and Auburn)? Doesn’t make much sense.

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by DKfromVA on Nov 2, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed!

Foolish ACC, why doesn’t the league understand this?

by NationWideNole on Nov 2, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

uh?

No props for the other ACC teams
OU > ND x3
OU > OSU x2
OU > Auburn x2
The only one I’ll give you is Duke Stanford, but Duke plays loose able games every week!
Your argument holds no water.

by ChiefOceola on Nov 2, 2011 10:48 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

Because FSU signed this series with OU this year? These scheduling deals are done several years in advance. How is the strength of the program this year relevant?

OU > OSU x2

This year. But when FSU and Miami scheduled these series?

Touting the OU series over all others holds no water because these deals aren’t done within the year.

by Brian Favat on Nov 3, 2011 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll give you that!

I say Florida is good enough for our big non-conference game. The rest should be chumps. I’ll take my chances with the BCS after that. There will be playoffs in the next 10 years anyway so I would rather earn our stripes that way.

by ChiefOceola on Nov 3, 2011 11:47 AM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

I hope you are right about the playoff.

by Brian Favat on Nov 3, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

When the ACC moves to a 9-game schedule, this argument becomes moot. FSU will schedule Florida at year end and open with a Sun Belt/C-USA team and a I-AA.

I just hope the ACC is more forceful in designating non-conference weekends. No one dictates to the Big Ten when they’ll play non-conference games, as the first four weekends of the year are dedicated to OOC play.

I think the ACC should move to a scheduling model where:
- First two weekends are non-conference
- Ten weeks to play a 9-game conference schedule
- Final weekend is a non-conference rivalry game (or VT-UVA or BC-SU)

Would give maximum time for the league to sell ACCCG tickets (since matchup would likely be set 2 weeks in advance) and doesn’t let schools like Notre Dame screw up the ACC schedule.

by Brian Favat on Nov 3, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like the way you think!

Let’s get the ACC commish on the line and get that done!

by ChiefOceola on Nov 3, 2011 2:11 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

Also, let’s publish the schedule more than 8 months in advance. Please.

by Brian Favat on Nov 3, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Swear to God, every year y'all have an attitude.

What’s the deal?

2011........ The ACC will begin to once again witness the power that is FSU football!

by Scalpemall on Nov 2, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure who this is directed towards, but who has an attitude?

Forgive me if I’m not drinking the garnet and gold Kool-Aid and think that complaining about the ACC schedule is a valid excuse / legitimate gripe.

by Brian Favat on Nov 2, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you want to be hailed...

as National Champs, then I’m sorry I refuse to accept scheduling as an excuse. I get what you are saying, but that;s one of the problems with professional sports and increasingly college athletics. There’s too much trickery and lawyering and money clouding one very significant issue…winning on the field.

If you’re the best, then play the best and win. If you’re one of the best football conferences…prove it on the field. This sounds too much like the heavy weight champ making up excuses why they don’t face the top contenders.

It’s nice to get wins, get invited to a bowl and send fans into a frenzied state, but all this tinkering beyond the end zones and the sidelines is screwing up college football.

I haven’t watched professional football in decades because it’s so tainted and full of distractions.

by bblaqus on Nov 2, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

You’re right about one thing – smart scheduling is playing the game in order to win championships. I don’t care about “beating the best” in today’s college football climate. I want to win titles and therefore want to maximize the chances of making this happen through smart scheduling.

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by DKfromVA on Nov 2, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I haven’t watched a lot of FSU this year, but they sound as if they have the pieces to be a really good team, but something key, maybe mental toughness, is holding them back at times.

0-3 in games when the QB misses a half or more

undefeated and smashing everyone when he does not


Tomahawk Nation Nole-Holds-Barred Analysis of FSU Sports!

by Bud Elliott on Nov 2, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

ok...

but, I would find that to be worrisome in that other players don’t step up or the coaching staff doesn’t change their game strategy to accomodate the talents that they do have on the field. In any case, it certainly explains the inconsistency. They’re still a good team.

by bblaqus on Nov 2, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Aside from simply losing the QB

we also lost 5 of our top 6 WRs. I don’t care who you are, go on the road and play a top 10 team with that kind of attrition and let me know how that goes for you.

by BobLoblaw113 on Nov 2, 2011 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought the reward for facing Clemson in week 4 was drawing both Duke and Virginia from the Coastal Division.

/ ducks

by Brian Favat on Nov 2, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fair


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by Bud Elliott on Nov 2, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Look on the bright side. You don’t have to play the Hokies every year.

by Brian Favat on Nov 2, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

And Miami is going to get crushed into a bloody pulp by the NCAA.

by Brian Favat on Nov 2, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep. Y’all will beat them next year.


Tomahawk Nation Nole-Holds-Barred Analysis of FSU Sports!

by Bud Elliott on Nov 2, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Scheduling loseable games when you don't have to is not smart

Sure everybody loves a good OOC match-up but then no one says “BC is 2-6, but they played a tough OOC schedule” Playing a OOC schedule that consists of Northwestern, UCF & Notre Dame is unnecessary. I think your series with ND is great and should continue but playing multiple teams that are more than capable of beating you is not the way most great teams schedule.

by NationWideNole on Nov 2, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

The ACC moving to a 9-game conference schedule will help this. Agree teams will probably move to a non-conference schedule that includes: 1 BCS AQ (Notre Dame), 1 mid-major (C-USA, MAC) and 1 I-AA.

by Brian Favat on Nov 2, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would favor a 9 game ACC schedule

Because they is no reason to schedule multiple BCS caliber teams OOC. That line up is the ideal OOC schedule IMO

by NationWideNole on Nov 2, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

For FSU, this is likely: Florida (BCS), Sun Belt / Conference USA and I-AA bodybag.

by Brian Favat on Nov 2, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

It limits Spetman’s potential idiocy, which is always a good thing.

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by DKfromVA on Nov 2, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

How...

are you a GREAT team if you are worried about losing?

by bblaqus on Nov 2, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

How are you a great team if youre not worried losing?

Go look at their schedules of National Title winners in the SEC, and you’ll see what we mean. Hell just look at UFs schedules when they won their 06 and 08 titles.

by WPNoleJ on Nov 2, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

This works for the SEC, but I don't think this works for the ACC.

I think ACC schools have to schedule a marquee non-conference game (and win) to overcome the national perception of an SEC title contender vs. an ACC title contender.

All things equal, an undefeated SEC, Big Ten and Big 12 program will likely play for the MNC over an undefeated ACC champ. An ACC title contender needs that marquee win over a team from one of the above three conferences to jump similarly undefeated teams to get into the BCSNCG.

by Brian Favat on Nov 2, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

How many teams do you think will finish this season undefeated?

If there is an abnormal year where four teams from BCS conferences go undefeated, and we miss out on the title game because we didn’t start high enough in the polls or played a soft OOC schedule, that’s understandable but I don’t foresee that happening regularly

by NationWideNole on Nov 2, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope in no way do I seem to be getting adversarial with you

In fact I really enjoy BCI and check it daily. For the record I think the winner of the LSU Alabama game will be the only undefeated team from a BCS conference this year.

by NationWideNole on Nov 2, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks, NationWide. Appreciate the kind words.

by Brian Favat on Nov 2, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we’ll see more undefeateds coming from AQ conferences going forward, especially with the Big 12 dropping the Championship Game.

This season, I actually think LSU / Bama, OK State and Stanford will all finish undefeated.

by Brian Favat on Nov 2, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

An undefeated FSU will go to the MNC

If FSU beats a bad FCS team, a couple of bad FBS teams and goes undefeated in the ACC and beat UF and then wins the ACCCG game to remain undefeated they’ll be in the MNC game EVERY SINGLE TIME.

UF will be our “marquee” win over an SEC school.

by WPNoleJ on Nov 2, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

FSU doesn’t really count as an ACC program like that


Tomahawk Nation Nole-Holds-Barred Analysis of FSU Sports!

by Bud Elliott on Nov 2, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still think it depends on the other teams that go undefeated. FSU will still be ranked behind an undefeated SEC and Big Ten team imo. Maybe an OU / Texas / similar Big 12 team.

by Brian Favat on Nov 2, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

lot of Big10 hate out there


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by Bud Elliott on Nov 2, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Scotty B

Good to see you even on the BC site brother. Whats your score on this game?

by s_barrow1 on Nov 2, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Are you guys going to bring back the prior year's #1 rush D?

“Do you expect Manuel to have success against a D that has gotten the better of FSU QBs (read: Ponder) the past three seasons — 2 TDs vs. 6 INTs”

Wouldn’t that be cheating?

by law74 on Nov 2, 2011 2:04 PM EDT reply actions  

What about how FSU will handle the cold?

by bc2208 on Nov 2, 2011 2:08 PM EDT reply actions  

I was thinking about this too

If its just cold, FSU will be fine. Last years ACCCG was in cold weather and EJ is from Virginia so he’ll be fine. If it snows then that might be a different issue all together.

by WPNoleJ on Nov 2, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

cold in Virginia means you wear socks with your shorts. Cold in Boston means don’t bother cleaning your runny nose after you go outside because the gook is frozen to your lip.

by bblaqus on Nov 2, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lol

Being born and raised in Florida you can see my understanding of the cold is limited. Though I did spend 3 weeks in January in Fargo, ND for work…….I wanted to die!

by WPNoleJ on Nov 2, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

True, but EJ’s from the warmer part of VA, though.

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by DKfromVA on Nov 2, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's not that unusual forTally

weather at night from mid November thru Feb 15.
Sorry BC fans, but you better come up with another factor that might give you a chance.

by law74 on Nov 2, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was worried about this. EJ did grow up in Virginia


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by Bud Elliott on Nov 2, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Isn’t it the first trip to Boston for a lot of this year’s squad? Weather might be a factor. Doubt it, but still possible.

by Brian Favat on Nov 2, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Weather didn't affect FSU when they faced your #2 ranked, Matty Ice qb'd team.

"Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat"

by Blue Horseshoe on Nov 2, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cold

Like in the 20’s? Would be a problem
Like in the 30’s? Could be a problem
40’s or above? We’re not that big a wussie, please!

by law74 on Nov 2, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

long as it's not raining...

please no wet fields or wet conditions. Not good.

Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.

by onebarrelrum on Nov 2, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

You appear to be...

“Wicked” high!!!! Love the optimism but it is just not realistic.

BC won’t be able to run the ball. Rettig will be running for his life. Wide receivers won’t get separation. BC will be lucky to score double digits. The only way it is close, is if FSU has a couple turnovers on their side of the field. Too much speed and depth is difference.

by SeminoleD on Nov 2, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Prediction

I feel like every year FSU fans say they’ll dominate us and nevertheless BC has a winning record against FSU. Nevertheless I think there right right this year and we’ll get rocked because Spaz is scared of good teams.

by 31southst on Nov 2, 2011 10:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Most of what happened pre-Jimbo Fisher is of limited importance.

This team is different. Almost as different as it can get. No offense or disrespect, because I have a lot of respect for what BC was able to accomplish against Florida State during the final Bowden years.

by Dauntless12 on Nov 2, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

BC has winning record against FSU?

That is shocking but I can’t argue with it. We have got to fix that immediately! How many are u up on us?

by ChiefOceola on Nov 2, 2011 11:49 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

I see your post below

and fair enough. I was referring to since we joined the ACC, where we are up 3-2 with one game being wiped

by 31southst on Nov 3, 2011 7:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not hating on BC

No doubt they have given the Noles all they can handle in the last decade. Just wanted to state the facts.

by ChiefOceola on Nov 3, 2011 8:05 AM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

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