ACC Championship Game: A Virginia-Wake Forest Title Game Still A Possibility
Brian: With the calendar turning to November, Boston College is out of the running for the Atlantic Division crown (and any bowl game for that matter) quite early this season. With BC out of the running, we turn our attention to possible ACC Championship Game matchups that don't include the Eagles.
As Ivan Maisel wrote this week, there are two surprises still in the running for their respective division titles.
"If you're looking for the happiest surprises of the season, look to the ACC, where Wake Forest (5-4, 4-2) and Virginia (6-3, 4-2) control whether they will win the Atlantic and Coastal divisions, respectively."
Can you imagine a Wake Forest vs. Virginia ACC Championship Game matchup? Would more than 10,000 fans show up to this year's game in Charlotte? Is this the worst remaining possible matchup in the ACC Championship Game for the conference? And what's the best possible matchup for national interest and attendance? Your thoughts?
Jeff: Wake Forest will beat Maryland easily at home. So the Atlantic Division absolutely comes down to the Demon Deacons game at Clemson this Saturday. Wake Forest has a chance to knock off the Tigers but Clemson is significantly favored in that one and rightfully so. While I don't expect it, there is a chance Wake Forest is playing in the Charlotte this season.
Meanwhile, Virginia has absolutely no chance whatsoever to make it to Charlotte. They still have three conference games remaining including at Florida State and Virginia Tech. The Cavaliers would have to win out in order to win the Coastal Division because either Georgia Tech or Virginia Tech will finish with only two conference losses or better.
Nationally, though, a Wake Forest-Virginia matchup in the ACC Championship Game would be the worst possible outcome for the ACC. It would pit a #21 vs. #23 nationally ranked team against one another or, more likely, Wake Forest wouldn't be ranked at all.
TV ratings would be terrible. But would ticket sales be a bust? Absolutely not. Wake Forest has played in the variously named Charlotte bowl before and done well with ticket sales. They will bring 30,000+ fans to the game just as they do to a normal home game. Virginia is also a big school and is under a five hour drive from Charlotte. Virginia has traveled moderately well to bowl games in the past and with the thought of who knows when UVA might make the ACCCG again, fans would travel en masse to Charlotte.
While the game might not quite sell out, it will absolutely have a very good crowd. This is the benefit of moving the game to North Carolina. Even with one of the least desirable matchups possible, the game will still draw an excellent crowd. If the game were played in Tampa again, there would be fewer fans than the Boston College vs. Virginia Tech 2008 matchup.
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Technically, the ACC Championship game is already sold out.
I think as long as it’s Clemson and VT/GT, the stands will be full … one of those is the best case scenario for the ACC.
It probably comes down to who wins tonight’s Tech vs. Tech game.
Assumption is the mother of all @#%-ups.
GT or VT may win this game, but Craig James is announcing so in the end we all lose.
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by A.J Black on Nov 10, 2011 10:10 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Selling out all the general tickets and fans actually showing up are two very different things.
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by Brian Favat on Nov 10, 2011 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
There’s no way that Wake brings 30k to a title game. There weren’t 30k in Jacksonville between Georgia Tech and Wake in 2006. Also, Wake is a tiny school. Big difference filling up Groves and filling up a neutral site game in Charlotte. Even with the proximity to Winston-Salem.
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Moot point though after Saturday. Clemson should win by 2+ TDs.
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by Brian Favat on Nov 10, 2011 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
Comparing Charlotte and Jacksonville
A 2 hour drive vs a 6-8 hour drive, to watch your school play. If Wake, VT, UVA, Clemson, UNC, NCSU or GT were to make the game in Charlotte, I would fully expect a good crowd turnout. Maybe even Maryland too. Charlotte is a better spot for most of the conference, and its is within a 3-4 hour drive of almost 6-7 of the schools. While the stadium wouldn’t be completely full if it was Wake vs UVA, it definitely would not be empty.
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It wouldn’t be empty, but it definitely wouldn’t be full. And would be a ratings disaster.
I know full well the remoteness of Jacksonville given my trip there in 2007. I even connected through CLT on the way home.
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Don't be so hard on Wake
I agree that this is likely to be a moot point after Saturday, but their fans appear to know that bowl games and championship games are few and far between. The announced attendance at the 2006 WF/GT title game in Jax was 62,000+ and the actual attendance was estimated between 40-50K. Not too bad given the distance and bad whether. The announced attendance for the 2007 Care Care Bowl in Charlotte between WF and UCONN was 53,000+. Not many of those were UCONN fans.
Hopefully
We’ll have a Clemson vs. VT title game, the ratings will be good and the seats will be filled.
I think ideally, the ACC should be able to have two teams in the top ten and five teams (total) in the top 25. Far too often the teams don’t live up to their expectations.
Assumption is the mother of all @#%-ups.
Far too often the teams don’t live up to their expectations.
I have no idea what team you could be referring to here. If I had to guess though, I’d probably say it was a “State” school from a prominent HS football state.
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by Brian Favat on Nov 11, 2011 10:04 AM EST up reply actions

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