Boston College Football Future Schedules Open Up With Syracuse's Move To ACC
by Brian Favat on Oct 6, 2011 12:00 PM EDT
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PrintDeFilippo was in Charlottesville on Tuesday for ACC meetings where scheduling and other topics related to adding Syracuse and Pittsburgh to the conference were discussed. We still don't know when Syracuse and Pitt will be allowed to join the conference. Could be 2014, or could be next season.
Either way, Syracuse's move to the ACC will eliminate one of our major non-conference series from our future non-conference schedules, and GDF will have to start thinking about replacing SU with another program.
Here's a look at Boston College's current non-conference future schedules:
2012 - at Northwestern, Notre Dame, Army, Maine
2013 - Syracuse, at USC, at Army, Stony Brook
2014 - at Syracuse, USC, vs. Army, Rhode Island
2015 - Syracuse, Notre Dame, Army, at Buffalo
2016 - at Syracuse, at Notre Dame, Buffalo
2017 - Syracuse
2018 - Syracuse, at Notre Dame
2019 - at Syracuse, Notre Dame
2020 - at Syracuse
2021 - Syracuse
With the ACC's additions of Pitt and Syracuse, it is assumed the conference will move to a nine game conference schedule. But with Syracuse becoming an ACC game ... soon, a big chunk of BC's future non-conference schedules just opened up.
If Syracuse is allowed to join the conference in 2013 and the ACC moves to a nine-game schedule, the 2013 schedule remains the same. The Orange would simply slot in as a conference game (assuming BC and Syracuse are placed in the same division or become cross-divisional rivals) and BC would keep its games at USC, at Army and against Stony Brook. The only downside here is that if the Eagles are given one more road ACC game than home game, BC could be left with just five home games on the 2013 schedule. Kinda lame.
If the Orange have to wait until the 2014 season, no sweat for BC either. The games against Syracuse would simply become conference games and BC would maintain its current non-conference schedule of USC, Army (Yankee Stadium) and Rhode Island in 2014, and Notre Dame, Army and at Buffalo in 2015.
It is starting in 2016 that scheduling holes really start opening up for Boston College. With Syracuse off the non-conference schedule, BC would be left with one slot in 2016, all three in 2017, two in 2018 and 2019, and all three again in 2020 and beyond.
You can expect GDF to fill at least two of these spots annually with a FCS school (likely a healthy rotation of Maine, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Stony Brook, Fordham and the like) and a non AQ program like UMass or another MAC school. But Syracuse does leave a big scheduling hole -- the non-conference game against a BCS AQ program -- to be filled in 2017, 2020, 2021 and beyond.
Assuming that program isn't Notre Dame in 2017, 2020 and 2021, who do you want to see the Eagles play? Penn State? Stanford? Another series with Northwestern? UConn? How about UCLA? Your thoughts?
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funny stuff -- Like the guy from Baghdad!
Marinatto, following a meeting of the 15 Big East presidents in Washington on Sunday, said TCU “is committed (to the Big East).”
B1G
How about Michigan or Michigan State as a nonconference opponent? They are fellow rust belt teams with good traditions that would be a good test for BC. Or would you prefer more exposure to the sun belt for recruiting purposes and schedule a team like Central Florida or East Carolina – respectable but winnable (not that BC couldn’t beat UM or MSU)?
I’d love to play a big state school B1G team. No problem with Northwestern but I love it when we play out of conference games against teams with some real following
This is where UMass hurts BC believe it or not.
Why would a school like Michigan agree to a 1:1 with BC when they can get a 2:1 or 10:1 with UMass at Gillette? As my Michigan buddy pointed out, it’s still cheaper for them to pay UMass to come to Ann Arbor and pay $600,000 with their 110,000 seat stadium rather than splitting the gate or whatever arrangement has been made at Gillette.
read my post
I didn’t say that would happen.
So a Michigan would schedule a 10:1 with one game at Gillette played in front of a 1/2 to 3/4 crowd … read below. What’s your point again?
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point is....
UMass will have an easier time scheduling decent non-conference opponents.
Agreed that this is all a non-issue because BC’s conference schedule is /will be >>>>>>>>>>>the MAC.
I don’t necessarily agree that because UMass can offer more flexible scheduling options — 2:1, 3:1, 4:1, etc. — and a stadium that seats a little over 20k more fans that they’ll automatically have an easier time scheduling decent non-conference opponents.
I don’t see why a Michigan would want to get locked into anything more than a 2:1 with a non-traditional non AQ opponent like UMass anyway, when there are any number of more sensible, local non-AQs (read: directional Michigans) lined up to get a paycheck for playing in the Big House.
Further, the Michigan AD recently said that they won’t schedule any non-Notre Dame non-conference opponent for a game away from the Big House. Doesn’t make financial sense when you have one of the largest stadiums in the country to play in each Saturday.
Boston College has enough football history and cache that they will continue to be able to get 1:1 with programs like USC, Notre Dame, Penn State. That doesn’t just evaporate because a MAC team plays in an NFL stadium ~40 miles away can offer 20k more seats.
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Please re-read above:
“it’s still cheaper for them to pay UMass to come to Ann Arbor and pay $600,000 with their 110,000 seat stadium rather than splitting the gate or whatever arrangement has been made at Gillette.”
by Go Minutemen on Oct 6, 2011 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
And it makes more financial sense to schedule Eastern Michigan, Central Michigan, Western Michigan, Toledo and Bowling Green — over UMass — considering all those MAC teams are more local and can ensure that they sell out the Big House.
B1G is also moving to a nine-game schedule, so after Notre Dame, a I-AA opponent and a local MAC opponent, I really don’t see any incentive for U-M to ever schedule UMass anymore (considering they won’t be I-AA going forward).
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The more I think about this, the more I’m convinced UMass doesn’t really impact Boston College scheduling. Like, at all.
The ACC will move to a nine-game conference schedule (most likely) when Syracuse and Pittsburgh join the fold. That leaves just three non-conference games to schedule. Typical BC non-conference scheduling blueprint: I-AA game, game against a non AQ (UMass, Buffalo, Army, etc.) and the third game against a BCS AQ opponent.
BC has a long-term series with Notre Dame, 1:1 with USC, finishes the second half of a 1:1 with Northwestern next season. They are doing pretty well in the non-conf BCS AQ scheduling department, and there’ll continue to be no shortage of BCS AQ programs looking to play BC.
Who cares if a Michigan agrees to a 10:1 with UMass … that’s one date in New England over a ten year period. If they want to schedule BC, then go for it. If not, there are plenty of other BCS AQ teams to schedule 1:1s with.
Seems like a non-issue to me.
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Or would you prefer more exposure to the sun belt for recruiting purposes and schedule a team like Central Florida or East Carolina – respectable but winnable.
Tried that. Failed miserably this year.
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More midwest games
I like having midwest and west coast games. Means we get to play in front of recruits in other areas- we already have two FL teams in our conference, we should look west.
Umass
Didnt we just announce a 2 for 1 with umass in 2014, 16, and 18?
by 31southst on Oct 6, 2011 12:44 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Yeah, but haven’t seen anything from the school. Have a link?
2014 UMass will likely replace URI, who’s dropping down from the CAA to the NEC.
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Sounds like it isn’t final yet …
McCutcheon said talks are progressing on a contract with Boston College, but that is still in the works.
"We’re pretty close, we’re coming down the home stretch, we just don’t have the documents done yet and, until then, I’m a little hesitant to make comments until we have all the T’s crossed and the I’s dotted," McCutcheon said. "But we’re making progress."
That contract is reportedly for three years beginning in 2014, with the teams playing every other year. BC would be home twice and the third game would be at Gillette, most likely in 2016."
http://www.masslive.com/umassfootball/index.ssf/2011/09/umass_football_adds_michigan_t.html
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Definitely UConn
It would be good for the region. Develop that rivalry and such.
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Welcome back!
We are already contributing to the future health of New England football. See above.
BC-UMass in 2014, 16 and 18.
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Well darn
How do you feel about playing another Big MAC team in the off years?
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Buffalo – 2015 and 2016
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by Brian Favat on Oct 6, 2011 1:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Well then
UConn would not be a good choice. Can’t be diluting that out of conference schedule with a bunch of MAC teams. Ruins your chances at going to the National Title game.
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Looking at that list of schools one school is not like the others…
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We can dream
but with the season that we’re having, Gene is going to schedule Akron, Ball St., or some other MAC school.
LSU
has a great travelling fanbase that might actually sell out Alumni Stadium. Maybe wait til 2021 – 22 to play them, at which time head coach BJ Raji will have resurrected the program.
Waiting for this to be posted on all the UConn boards and they all vote and then proclaim smugly that BC fans wish to add UConn to their future schedules when it becomes a runaway winner.
You give us too much credit
I don’t think there are that many UConn football fans out there.
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Love when this happens. Very TheRaj-esque.
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by Brian Favat on Oct 6, 2011 1:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
are you insulting UConn Fans little Adam?
Really, Adam, how can you accuse another school of being less than perfect?
Didn’t you just tell me:
You are the worst type of BC fan. You are a terrible ambassador for the premier Jesuit football program in the country.
Perhaps back in the day your attitudes were warranted – I remember the fans that Big East teams would bring to Conte and Alumni and you had to be prepared to respond in kind. However, in the ACC I hold myself and other BC fans to a classier standard.
Now go apologize to UConn fans Adam, you worm.
Error in poll
It asks for BCS AQ schools. UCan’t is in the BigEast, which A) won’t be an auto-qualifier next year, and B) likely won’t be a conference.
GO BC!
Unless the BE manages to completely disband or drop football
It’ll hang on to it’s AQ spot until the end of the current BCS agreement. There’s no way for it to lose it. After that, it’s dead.
And the Catholic basketball league is not going anywhere, so the BE will still be a conference, even if Rutgers and UConn are playing football in the MAC and all other sports in the Big East while USF returns to CUSA .
Right
I saw on ESPN College Football Live someone say the Big East won’t be able to keep the BCS AQ formula above where it needs for an auto-bid, which is not correct. The formula is for conferences that don’t have an auto-bid that are looking to become BCS AQs, and isn’t used for possibly dropping a BCS AQ conference’s auto-bid.
A football-only conference of Rutgers, UConn, Cincinnati, South Florida, Villanova, Temple, UCF, East Carolina would still maintain a BCS AQ since the Big East already has an auto-bid.
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End game
ACC (14) adds Syracuse and Pittsburgh
Big East (10) adds Central Florida, East Carolina, Temple, Villanova and SMU
Big 12 (10) adds TCU and keeps Missouri
SEC (14) adds Texas A&M and West Virginia
Pac-12 (12) no change
Big Ten (12) no change
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