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How the Fans Got Al Skinner Fired

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You know why Al Skinner was successful? Because he didn’t give a damn what anybody said about him. He didn’t care if big-time, big-scoring Duke was in Conte Forum to face his team, he didn’t care who Coach K was. He didn’t care that there weren't fans in the stands, and if there were, he didn’t notice.

Now some may say that this was Skinner’s downfall. That his stubbornness in keeping with the Flex offense – his reluctance to switch to a more-smooth style of ACC play from the rock-’em, sock-’em Big East style – was what created the slow-moving games and the uninterested fans. One person in particular who’s saying this is BC athletic director Gene DeFilippo.

Now, I’m going to call out some people, so excuse me if you’re one of them, but don’t we, as fans, deserve some culpability in this? Yeah, I’m talking to you, the girl who waited in line for season tickets only to go to the Duke game and maybe a few others if her friends were going. Or you, the middle-aged bald guy I had to listen to berate Al during the URI game, after he told his son that BC wouldn’t win one game in the ACC (excuse me sir, but at that point in time they had already beaten Miami, so get your facts straight).

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I began my tenure at Boston College in 2002, a short time after BC had won the Big East tournament. A time when Troy Bell was still revered among the basketball elite. A time when people STILL weren’t filling the 8,000-plus-capacity Conte Forum. My freshman year, we didn’t make it into the NCAA Tournament. We watched the selection show in the locker room, waiting to hear our name, and then walked out to a bunch of news cameras and reporters wanting to know what it felt like. Awful. That’s how it felt.

My sophomore year we beat defending-champion Syracuse in the Big East Tournament, and lost to Pitt the next day in the semi-finals. We lost in the second round of the NCAA Tournament. My junior year, although we weren’t the best team in the country, we got out to a 20-0 start, and a high national ranking. We beat Syracuse on our home floor, and the fans rushed the court. We beat UConn that year too, our last season in the Big East. Again, we lost in the second round of the NCAA’s.

The 2005-2006 season was one that dreams are made of. The combination of Craig Smith, Jared Dudley, Tyrese Rice and Sean Williams, not to mention Louis Hinnant, and Sean Marshall, was magical, and it was one of those times in your life when everything is just clicking. I’m pretty sure Al was still running his Flex offense then. I’m pretty sure it knocked some of those ACC teams on their asses. And I’m pretty sure those seats were filled for almost every game. So it’s not the Flex offense that’s really the problem here, is it Gene? It’s because Boston College wasn’t winning big games, and the fans want wins.

I think DeFilippo has made a grave error here, not necessarily in the firing of Al Skinner, because good things can’t last forever, but for letting the students and the fans dictate how he’s going to do business. You know what you just told Steve Donahue, Gene? That if he doesn’t put people in the stands, his job is at stake. Donahue’s reign as the head coach at Boston College rests in a 21 year-old’s ability to get himself out of the Mods for a noon game in the middle of January. Good luck with that Steve.

As much as we alumni don’t want to admit it, Boston College is notorious for it’s fair-weather fan-dom. Even when the football team is successful, it’s bowl bid grossly undermines this success, because BC fans don’t travel. It doesn’t matter what sport, fans stroll in minutes after the game has already begun. Maybe it’s traffic, maybe it’s weather or maybe it’s just apathy.

For years students have been complaining that Skinner didn’t have Midnight Madness. Many said that an event like that - something that gets the student involved - would get more people in the stands. I once heard someone say that Tyrese Rice should stand out in the Quad and high-five people to get them to go to his next game. Well, this road works two ways my friend, so don’t make promises you can’t keep. What happens when a mediocre BC team plays a bad Ivy League team towards the end of December and you can choose to go home early for Winter Break or go to the game? Are you going to saddle up in the first row of the yellow chairs in Conte Forum because Midnight Madness was so much fun? I don’t think you will.

We can go on and on about how much we hate Duke, but you know what? Duke’s fans show up. It doesn’t matter if they’re playing an exhibition game against the School for the Blind, Duke fans will be there to cheer their team on, because that’s their school. That’s their team. And they have pride in that, win or lose.

Maybe I just don’t understand that winning is supposed to come easy - that we’re all supposed to have it served to us on a silver platter. I grew up an Army football and basketball fan, and I sat through more losses than I can count, truly. I’ve seen the worst losing record in Division I football history. I’ve seen worse losses than BC’s losses to Harvard. The Army men’s basketball team has never been to an NCAA Tournament in my lifetime. But I still cheer. I still go to each game with the (maybe unreasonable) hope that this game will be the one where luck changes. Where everything starts to click. Where magic happens. BC fans have to change their perspective, or no coach or team is ever going to be good enough.

I hope Steve Donahue is the answer to this problem, I really do, because I too enjoy rooting for a successful team. But if he isn’t, what then? Do we go looking for another person who will be? Gene has to know that he just set a precedent.

I wish Steve Donahue a long, successful career at the Heights. I just hope there are people there to see it.

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Yes, I got Al Skinner fired

And I’d do it again.

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by SoaringtoGlory on Apr 7, 2010 12:42 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I don't really understand the point of this

You admit that fans would come to a winning team. So it’s not just the refusal of fans to come to basketball games but rather fans voting the only way they can, by not buying tickets. If Gene did not respect the wishes of the fans and the university, then he should be fired.

by BigRedDog42 on Apr 7, 2010 1:05 PM EDT reply actions  

On the Duke thing

That is irrelevent, Duke always wins, that’s why they go. You admitted it takes a great season to fill the seats, true but it’s not going to fill the seats for the cupcake games. It’s consecutive winning seasons (especially in a pro-dominated sports town)

by Jiftastic on Apr 7, 2010 3:14 PM EDT reply actions  

good post

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and im glad a Skinner supporter came out of the wood work. he was a good coach, who provided us with way more good memories than bad. Unfortunately the bad ones are more recent. The fans have always been hit or miss even during our successful runs. We played in the best conference tournament in the nation, the Big East Tourney, and still only traveled on average 20-30 fans. Fans need to understand that they are a much bigger part than they realize. Players will respond to more people in the seats, and that in turn helps recruiting, leading to a better product. I have to come to grips with the fact that we will not convince any non die-hards to start caring about the program, the only thing that will do that is W, and then creating a consistent environment.

I dont necessarily agree with the comparison to Duke, and understand that BC fans will come if we win, and when we are on TV. Donahue is a good hire for our program, but in terms of getting asses in the seats, i dont think this is the guy who starts off next season in front of a full conte. But that doesnt mean that three years from now, we’ll be talking about a basketball program that is predicted to finish in the top 4 of the acc and guaranteed NCAA tourney spot.

People who read this are probably already going to basketball games, its on Gene and the Athletic Dept to get students to the game. How can we do that? Give Conte back to the Student fans. Create a student section similar to other legit programs. (Don’t go putting old guys and families behind the basket)
Fan appreciation night should be every night at BC, reward fans for coming.
Create some buzz during football season- you have an audience of 30,000+

by BCRaj on Apr 8, 2010 9:58 AM EDT reply actions  

BC plays in the second smallest arena in the ACC. I wonder if the Athletic Department floated the idea of building a new basketball arena with the last Master plan.

I mean, let’s be honest – the basketball team plays in a hockey arena. The configuration of Conte doesn’t really lend itself well to basketball. It would be great if we had a basketball-only facility where the students were rewarded with good seats right on top of the action. Just a thought.

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by Brian Favat on Apr 8, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

good theory

thats a huge investment for a fairly apathetic fan base. But i like where your head is at….

by BCRaj on Apr 8, 2010 10:48 AM EDT reply actions  

“A huge investment for a fairly apathetic fan base”

Aren’t you referring to the project to build a brand new baseball/softball stadium on Brighton Campus?

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by Brian Favat on Apr 8, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

thats just nonsense

seriously watching college baseball/softball is as exciting as watching grass grow

by BCRaj on Apr 8, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Softball yes, baseball kind of.

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by SoaringtoGlory on Apr 8, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Baseball kind of. BC baseball absolutely.

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by Brian Favat on Apr 8, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I used to call some BC baseball games for WZBC back in the day. Maybe it’s because I was standing up and flipping through papers the whole time while straining to see the ball from behind a chain-linked fence and the BC dugout, but I felt like the games went quickly. The softball was almost like torture.

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by SoaringtoGlory on Apr 8, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

When will the fans get Gene fired?

I have to disagree with the premise of this article. Fans at BC do not have enough clout to get anyone fired. If they did, Mr. DeFilippo would have hit the trails several years ago. But keep working at it, fans. Run your AD off and make sure you get one who does not fantasize about being king, emperor, or the biggest pr*k in the world. All the changes you want that will actually bring fans to the games will happen. Not with Gene. He stopped listening a while ago. His tenure should have been eviscerated by now.

by Tony77019 on Apr 8, 2010 9:24 PM EDT reply actions  

There are a lot to blame...

A lot of the blame needs to be put on the Athletic Department / Marketing Department as a whole. As someone that was at BC from 05-09 I’ve noticed a certain trend in BC athletics. If a game is considered a social event, more people will go. That’s why the Duke and North Carolina games are so big. Thats why BC kids go to football games (weekend, everyone is tailgating, etc.) The athletic department needs to realize what they have and work with it. There are probably 5,000 young Alumni under 30 in Boston to go along with the 9,000 students + grad students in the city. They need to find a way to get those to come to games as well by making special social events out of it. Don’t charge admission (or as much admission) offer young Alumni half season packages and do bar events to go along with games. I understand we will never expect a big crowd for NJIT, so dont charge kids to go to those games. BC needs to start over and begin building a brand before they can expect to charge kids 15 bucks a pop to go to a game they can barely talk their friends into joining. I have a lot more I want to say but I’ll; save it for another time.

by Taylor Wishman on Apr 12, 2010 9:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Preach it brother

I went there from 04-08 and I agree with just about everything you said. Almost nobody gets off their asses at BC for sports unless there’s something in it for them. A good number of the students don’t go to the football games because they love the team and are seriously invested in them from day to day or week to week like we BC bloggers are; they go because their buddies are going and it’s an excuse to drink (as if a college student needs one) and tailgate. BC football games are a day-long party. With basketball, there is no social event and the previous regime did not even attempt to excite the fans about the program, hence there is no excitement. Donahue’s meet and greet last week was the first time I remember the BC basketball team trying to generate interest off the court.

My brother went to Holy Cross and they didn’t charge for student admission (in ANY sport), so some think we should go that way. My former BC roommate, however, sees it differently. Most BC students have money, and if they buy up the tickets but don’t go, when they take a $10 hit on the ticket they’ll say “whatever, it’s just $10” and will sit in their rooms playing Wii. If they’re free, that may happen with more frequency. I personally think experimenting with free student admission to some of the lesser games would be worth a try, but Athletics will never do it, because they’re selling those seats for profit even though nobody goes to the games.

Soaring to Glory: Come for the BC sports, stay for the asinine rants.

by SoaringtoGlory on Apr 12, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

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