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Florida State 24, Boston College 19: The Thin Line Between Winning And Losing

Brian: Following Notre Dame's overtime loss to Michigan State, CW over at Rakes Of Mallow had an excellent analogy to describe the thin line between winning and losing:

"A couple weeks ago on Mad Men, Sterling Cooper Draper Pryce creative director Don Draper was talking about a campaign for Samsonite with one of his employees, Peggy Olson. They were struggling to come up with an idea for a new luggage campaign when Peggy confessed to her boss that she can no longer tell the difference between something good and something awful. Draper's reply? "Well, they're very close."

I feel the same thing about winning and losing, because the line between the two is so incredibly thin sometimes."

This pretty much sums up how I feel about BC's 24-19 loss to Florida State. A few things break in BC's favor, and that 24-19 victory could have easily been a 23-17 Eagles victory.

  • If Montel Harris reaches paydirt on either of his long runs ... 
  • If Jim Noel comes down with one more interception -- he had two, but easily could have pulled down two more ...
  • If Florida State's Rodney Smith doesn't miraculously come down with that catch on 3rd and 5 on the Seminoles first TD drive ...
  • If Jimbo Fisher didn't dial up the perfect offensive playcall as he did on FSU's first and game-winning TD drives ...
  • If the refs don't extend an FSU drive with a questionable pass interference call (or BC gets a call on some of the bang-bang plays) ...

I think things could have been different. As it stands though, a loss is a loss, the Eagles fourth straight and third straight in the ACC. Let's start with the likes. What did you like from the Eagles performance on Saturday?

Jeff: The defense was great. Four takeaways and holding the Seminoles to a very reasonable 24 points. But when we needed a stop for a chance to win the game, they couldn't get it. Twice they had opportunities but when the opposing offense has 3rd and 1 with two chances to get that yard, it's tough to stop them. It would've been nice to see what Rettig could have done with four minutes left and a chance to win on the road.

The defense has clearly been much better than the offense this season but they obviously have not won us any games. Most of our toughest, if not all of our toughest opponents are now behind us. Even though our D has to spend a lot of time on the field, I think I expected more from them this season. Since the Virginia Tech game, they haven't held the opposition to a score that we really would've expected to win. FSU's defense is too good to expect our offense to go there and score more than 24 and we knew we couldn't get in shoot-outs with N.C. State and Notre Dame.

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Brian: I agree the defense played very well. Jim Noel had two interceptions and a touchdown, and could have pulled down 1-2 other passes. Probably should have. Not bad for a guy who wasn't even supposed to start.

Fletcher also had some good sticks. Kuechly again went over the 10 tackle mark, depending on how you count tackles (5 solo, 6 assisted).

Though there were a few things I didn't like on Saturday. The offensive play calling wasn't great by any stretch of the imagination, but I think this is becoming a convenient scapegoat. Sure, when you call run plays on first down on 12 of the Eagles 14 possessions, it only takes a reasonably competent DC to eventually catch on. And catch on Mark Stoops did. BC ran 18 plays in FSU territory for total yardage of -2.

When your offense takes over at your own 20, down 8 with 1:03 left to go in the first half, two run plays to run the clock and go into halftime is a good strategy -- a good strategy if you are going to get the ball back to start the second half. Clearly I would have liked Spaz/Tranq to keep the foot on the gas and try something. A deep throw, something.

However, while the play calling wasn't great, it also has to come down to offensive execution. It looked like BC had a decent trick play dialed up on 3rd and short in the first quarter, with Rettig split out wide and Montel in the Bazooka, but BC had to burn their second timeout as they were confused about the play call. After the timeout, Montel got stuffed and BC had to punt. That was a backbreaking stalled drive considering BC was up 6-0 and FSU marched down the field to take the lead on their next possession.

Rettig completed just 9-of-24 passes and was sacked 4-5 times. He showed flashes of what he can do but also looked like a true freshman at times. The offensive line sprung Montel for two HR runs, but wasn't really able to sustain anything on the ground and gave up plenty of sacks and TFLs. The WRs continue to look and play like underclassmen. The play calling hasn't been great, and I believe coaching has been the cause of a lot of BC's offensive woes, but the offense also has to execute on the field. As comical as it might be to picture 70-year old Gary Tranquill under center, he's not the one that has to execute on the field.

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I think you're being too forgiving on Tranq

Running on 12 of our 14 first downs (including the first 9 in a row) puts our offense in a big hole. That in combination with our refusal to call any counters/screens/playactions designed to take advantage of an over-aggressive defense is really brutal. Its hard for the offense to execute when the whole stadium can guess our series will be two Montel runs up the middle followed by a pass. I’m at the point where I think Dana Bible might be a better OC.

by 31southst on Oct 18, 2010 9:10 AM EDT reply actions  

winnable game for sure

It was winnable, which was unexpected and a very good sign.

But yeah, the Tranq playing calling really doomed us. Run Harris, run harris, etc. the first run was pretty lucky for BC, but Transq did not view it as luck (FSU had wrong defense called) , but instead viewed it as a call for more runs.

I liked Rettig’s poise and a few of his throws were beauties. Nice to know we should have a decent future with Rettig.

If we are going to constantly rush, why not have a two half back set — Montel and Sterling. One goes left, one goes right. Might increase the odds of getting some decent runs.

I was quite surprised to see on the 70 yard run just how slow Montel is. I checked his “rivals” info. says he runs a 4.6 40. Looked more like a 4.7, and that is no comparison to a 4.5/4.4 speed that FSU has. lack of speed is also why Harris can’t really run wide. too slow.

Also was disappointed that Defenese let FSU run out clock with 11 straight rushes with 8 minutes left. The could not stop them from getitng first downs. Most of the FSU runs during the final drive were off tackle. Seems to be a weakness there. also, Did Spaz even call a few strategic time outs during the final 3-4 minutes to give us a chance? I don’t recall any.

Nonetheless, I must say I am happy the team really improved. They held their own. A few calls here and there; better play calling by Tranq and we could have one. With some offense, we will be back at the top of the ACC next year.

by waterwater on Oct 18, 2010 10:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Yep

FSU accidentally read the personnel as Nickel but it was double-tights, allowing a huge open gap. And then the umpire picked off the safety.

This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.

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by Bud Elliott on Oct 18, 2010 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here's why Tranq's play calling killed us

When you run on first down 9 times in a row, and 12 out of 14 overall, it becomes very easy to understand what we are going to do. So now on every first down Fla St is stacking the box, making it next to impossible to gain any yards. Now we’re starting most of our drives at 2nd and 9 or 10, which puts us in a huge hole, especially with a true freshman QB. If Tranq had mixed it up more and we were able to get a few yards on first down, now we’re looking at 2nd and 6, which gives you more flexibility in the play calling and makes it easier on Rettig. I don’t know off hand how many 3rd and long’s Rettig faced, but I know there were a lot and that’s a lot of pressure to put on the kid, let alone the offense.

by BStrong95 on Oct 18, 2010 11:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Like I said, the play calling wasn’t great. It was pretty predictable. But you also have to execute.

How many times was Rettig sacked? He only completed a hair over 1/3 of his passes. If he throws an incomplete pass, or gets sacked, BC is now at 2nd and 10+. That puts even more pressure on him than 2nd and 7+.

I didn’t mind the conservative playcalling that much. Could it have been better? Absolutely. But BC also has to execute on the field.

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by Brian Favat on Oct 18, 2010 11:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think you have the cause and effect backwords

I think a large part of the reason his completion percentage was so low was because Tranq only let him throw in 2nd and 9, 3rd and 8 type situations. With more variation and less predictability, I’m sure there would have been more success.

by 31southst on Oct 18, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

In other words, I didn’t mind the lack of throwing on first down because I was unconvinced that

a) the line could protect Rettig in pass protection and
b) the WRs/TEs would catch the ball

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by Brian Favat on Oct 18, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

+ 4 in the turnover margin and you lost

you can spend a week digging thru the stat books and not find another game like that.

by 93noleman on Oct 18, 2010 3:11 PM EDT reply actions  

And the schedule, once again, was completely in BC's favor

Noon game. Catching Noles after their biggest win in 10 years with a bye week following and the game that decides the Atlantic after that. Jesus himself would’ve found it difficult to inspire the Noles.

by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 18, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

the Noles seem to be minimizing

the Noles fans seem to be minimizing the fact that BC was stiff competition for big, bad, dominant FSU. Don’t let yourself off the hook so easily — you are not that good yet

by waterwater on Oct 18, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Apparently the only reason BC was in this game was because Ponder had a bad day …

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by Brian Favat on Oct 18, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, Your outstanding defense kept you in it

Ponder playing like a freshman gave you a chance to win.

by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 18, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not yet, but the ACC

is quickly letting there last chance to catch us before we ARE that good slip away.

by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 18, 2010 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heard that before

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by Brian Favat on Oct 19, 2010 8:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah, we used to get that lip service every year

We are no longer suffering from Bowdenidis. So, we actually believe it now. Probably getting ahead of ourselves. As you can tell, we are all very full of ourselves, err confidence, these days. :)

by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 19, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Let me guess

As a result, you’re having a hard time making friends in the ACC …

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by Brian Favat on Oct 19, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

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